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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Remove my A/C !need help!

Hi, I removed my compressor of conditioned air today because it was not functional any more (the strap was already removed) and I wanted to know what to do with the rubber pipes and wires (as you can see ine the pics below) according to those which are encircled in yellow connected together same thing for the red circles.

- http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/IMG_1280.jpg

- http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/IMG_1279.jpg

- http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/IMG_1278.jpg

- http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/IMG_1275.jpg

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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Tuck/hide/tape the wires & plugs away, and remove the aluminum canister + the radiator in the heater box + the frontmost radiator in the grille. All that was connected to the compressor is unneccessary now and can be removed.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

if I remove these parts, my heating will still function? because I just want to remove my a/c, not all my heating system.

I thought that I had that there was a means of by pass them (rubber pipes)
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

those two extra "radiators" you mentioned are called the evaporator and condenser in the order you mentioned them.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Heater will still work. In the heater box you'll find two radiators. One carries hot water and the other carried A/C fluid (and is called an evaporator). You can remove it or let it be, it doesn't matter for the function. Just plug the holes where the pipes came through the box if you remove it.
The reason most people remove the compressor etc. is to clean up the engine bay. I believe so-called A/C-delete kits are available. They would contain a non-A/C heater box and -control panel.
In the front you also find two radiators. The front was for the A/C (and is called a condenser) and the rear is the ordinary water-carrying cooler radiator.
There is no more A/C fluid remaining in the system now to be bypassed. Not that it would do any good without the compressor in place anyway. Did it hiss, spray and fog when you took it apart? If not then it was empty already.
If you don't feel like removing the rest then I don't understand why you removed the compressor, but you can just put plastic caps on the open pipes and be done.
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Thank you very much,

no, nothing hiss spray and fog...it was already empty.

I removed just because I was bored to see it aging under my hood
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Old Feb 8, 2008 | 07:30 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Ok, each to his own liking. I would've wanted to try to restore it to working order, but if you never need it where you live then it's just an unneccessary expense.
It will tidy up the bay a lot even if you just remove the aluminum canister (receiver/ dryer) and then cap the open pipe ends of the radiators. If you don't throw away the compressor you can cap the pipes of it too so it could be overhauled and installed at a later date. There's oil in it btw. The canister would have to be replaced in an A/C rebuild anyway though.
If you have a clutch mechanical fan then it's a heavy duty type due to the A/C. It can be replaced with a standard duty now to get a quieter ride that don't pull so much dust into the engine bay. If it's electric then it doesn't matter.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

it's an electric fan...

but I don't have any cap to put on

so I can let it like that?
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Ok, just remove the aluminum canister if you wish and put some tape over all the pipe ends, that'll suffice.
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Old Feb 10, 2008 | 12:07 AM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

So long as it's just the ac and you have no intention of hooking it back up, you don't need to plug anything. If your not going to hook it back up, what does it matter that dirt/dust/water gets in it?
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Old Feb 11, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Ok, thank you very much for all your answers
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Hello, I am trying to clean up my engine bay and since my AC does not work and most of the components were removed except the canister and the box attached to the firewall. I did a search to see how to do this, and I came across this thread. And so far it was very helpful.

I wanted to know about the wires that are plugged into the AC box, if I removed the canister and the box from the firewall the wires in the pic that I have circled would not be connected. Do those need to be connected for the heater to still work? Right now I still would like the use of the heater and defroster. Is there any thing else that I need to be aware of before removing the box. I saw an article about making your own AC delelte box and was thinking about making one of them or can I just bolt a plate to cover the holes that would be left from the AC box?

This is not a pic from my car, I have not yet downloaded the pics from my camera. I will do that in the next day or so.

Any help would be very appreciated!
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

keep all the wires until the time you have finished because there's only one set of wires that you can cut and tape, those that were attach to the aluminium canister, the others one must be plug into your new a/c delete box.

the wires that you have circled in red will fit directly in the a/c delete box like this one: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/untitled.jpg



this is pic of my engine bay before:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...isher305/2.jpg

and after: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/IMG_1211.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/IMG_1214.jpg

I hope that this will help you

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Originally Posted by Punisher305

the wires that you have circled in red will fit directly in the a/c delete box like this one: http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...5/untitled.jpg
First, thanks for replying to me Punisher305. Where did you get the AC delete box or did you make it, if you dont mind me asking? And I want to tell you that you did a good job it, it looks like you never had the ac box.

When you removed the old AC box do those wires just pass through the old box and then just plug them back in when the delete box is installed? Were there any other wires that I would need to worry about other than the ones that I had circled?
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

thanks for your compliment.

I didn't make it, I bought it from I guy but you can easily buy one at a srapyard or on ebay like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...yphotohostingà

yes for you first question and for you're second, yes, the one who are connected to the little relay box. In other words the only one that you can cut is the one as on your pic, those that are connected to the aluminium canister (those which touch your red circle)
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

some of the thirdgens did not come with a/c I believe it is the 1LE rpo code that is where most people get them but they are hard to come by these days and go for about $100
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

yes you're right mxcrazed.

Option 1LE: "Performance Package" - HISTORY: This model developed in secrecy by Chevrolet is far from known. The fact that the manufacturer remained very discrete about it in fact a model really with share: In 1988, the "Showroom Secrecy" of the mark worked out specific Camaro for the circuit (derivative of the IROC-Z). 4 models were produced this year there. Certain witnesses affirming to have seen some, the Pentagon, already weakened in the businesses Kennedy and Roswell, was obliged to acknowledge its existence. Note of the author: to captivate your attention, this introduction was slightly fictionalized on the end.

- CARACTERISTIQUES: Engine 5,7 liters TPI (L98) or 5 liters TPI (LB9) the whole of the G-92 options i.e.: Rims of 16 inches. Tires P245/50 ZR-16 Goodyear Gatorback Differential with slip limited 4 brakes discs Oil radiator Air conditioning removed (to gain weight and place) removed Lamps fog (to release the air intake located behind) Driveshaft out of aluminium Exhaust ' performance' (2 catalysts) Absorbent of energy special (until 1990) Brakes specific fronts outlets of the Corvette Tank modified with reserve

- PRODUCTION:
1988: 4
1989: 111
1990: 62 (including 34 with one 5 liters and 28 with the 5,7 liters)
1991: 592 (increase in the production because of the request of private individuals)
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Originally Posted by Punisher305
thanks for your compliment.

I didn't make it, I bought it from I guy but you can easily buy one at a srapyard or on ebay like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/82-92...yphotohostingà

yes for you first question and for you're second, yes, the one who are connected to the little relay box. In other words the only one that you can cut is the one as on your pic, those that are connected to the aluminium canister (those which touch your red circle)
Thanks again for the quick reply. I saw the link you provided and I may try to buy that one if I get out bid then I guess I will head to the junkyard and see what I can find out there. Might get lucky, never know.

Can you answer me another question...

Is the heater box and the AC box 2 pieces that are fitted together? I ask this becuase I was thinking if I could not get a non-ac box (that is one piece right) I was wondering if I could just put back the heater box (with the fan) and then make a plate and cover the hole except where I need to connect the wires to the relay box.
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1 piece box
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

I guess you talk about his box part:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...sher305/gh.jpg

the stock a/c box contain one part but divided in two part and the a/c delete box is one piece and it will fit in place (with the fan) without any modification.

the best way is to do what did, it look bone stock

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Originally Posted by Punisher305
I guess you talk about his box part:
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...sher305/gh.jpg

the stock a/c box contain one part but divided in two part and the a/c delete box is one piece and it will fit in place (with the fan) without any modification.

the best way is to do what did, it look bone stock
Thanks again for the pic, that was exactly what I wanted to see.

I think you are right that the best way would be to do it the way you did it. But I am on a super tight budget, so if I cant get that one off of ebay cheap (hopefully not alot of people see this thread or are looking for one on ebay) but that is why I am thinking about modifying what I have.

Again thanks for replying to me with your pics and experience. I thought it looked like separate pieces.

I took your pic and I have another question. Is the piece that I have circled red easy to remove?
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

there is 3 screws that retains it by the interior (off course the passenger side) you have to remove the plastic cover ( 3 srews) and then, if you pull a little bit the carpet at the bottom, you will see the screws that you have to remove

its a pleasure for me to answer you
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

Punisher

I cant thank you enough. You have been such a great help.

Thanks for the tip about the screws in the interior, that would have boggled my mind for a long time. If you have any other suggestions or tips that you think might help, I would love to read them.
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Re: Remove my A/C !need help!

no problem, it was a pleasure for me to help you. while I think of it there is 2 srews by the interior, the other is in the engine bay just beside the rubber pipe of your heater core connected to the fire wall.

good luck with your work, post some pics when its done!
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