Cooling Discuss all of the aspects of cooling that you can think of! Radiators, transmissions, electric fans, etc.

Still Overheating... please help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 09:42 PM
  #1  
bcfipp's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Still Overheating... please help

I have a 91 camaro z28 with a 305 auto. I replaced the thermostat, water pump and radiator. It still runs 220 or a little higher. Both fans work. Any ideas. Thanks for the help
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:15 PM
  #2  
camaronewbie's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,192
Likes: 19
From: Cary, North Carolina
Car: 1992 RS
Engine: Carbed 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi
Re: Still Overheating... please help

is it overheating, or is it running 220? 220 is not overheating in these cars - 220 is about normal op temp.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:20 PM
  #3  
KNBlazer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, California
Car: Trailblazer EXT 4.2 (Firebird Form)
Engine: 5.1 4bbl
Transmission: 700R4 Mega Raptor Level 4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Still Overheating... please help

what temp thermostat did you install?
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:35 PM
  #4  
bcfipp's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Re: Still Overheating... please help

I put a 160 stat in it. It runs about 230 maybe i guess 235 in traffic, but cools to 225 maybe 230, I think. When it gets 220 or higher i can feel the upper radiator hose have coolant boiling in it.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:43 PM
  #5  
KNBlazer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, California
Car: Trailblazer EXT 4.2 (Firebird Form)
Engine: 5.1 4bbl
Transmission: 700R4 Mega Raptor Level 4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Still Overheating... please help

well if you say everything is working... then you may need to check your timing... btw... 160 is too cool for these cars... you should go no lower than 180 degrees...
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:45 PM
  #6  
bcfipp's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Re: Still Overheating... please help

What is the ideal timing?
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:46 PM
  #7  
KNBlazer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, California
Car: Trailblazer EXT 4.2 (Firebird Form)
Engine: 5.1 4bbl
Transmission: 700R4 Mega Raptor Level 4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Still Overheating... please help

well that I do not know... you have TBI, correct?
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:49 PM
  #8  
KNBlazer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, California
Car: Trailblazer EXT 4.2 (Firebird Form)
Engine: 5.1 4bbl
Transmission: 700R4 Mega Raptor Level 4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Still Overheating... please help

according to autozone 6 degrees...
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:50 PM
  #9  
bcfipp's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Re: Still Overheating... please help

I have a 305 carb?
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:54 PM
  #10  
KNBlazer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,125
Likes: 1
From: San Diego, California
Car: Trailblazer EXT 4.2 (Firebird Form)
Engine: 5.1 4bbl
Transmission: 700R4 Mega Raptor Level 4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Still Overheating... please help

Originally Posted by bcfipp
I have a 305 carb?

well I would say it's a TBI.. .do you have two large injectors on top of the carb under the air cleaner? do you know the difference between the two units...?
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2010 | 10:58 PM
  #11  
bcfipp's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Re: Still Overheating... please help

Yea I know the difference between the the two. I have a carb setup not a tbi setup
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 12:05 AM
  #12  
sonjaab's Avatar
On Probation
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,592
Likes: 18
From: Syracuse NY
Car: 84 Z-28
Engine: 305 HO
Transmission: r-700
Axle/Gears: 3:73
Re: Still Overheating... please help

220 to 240 is NORMAL for these cars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 02:50 AM
  #13  
LAFireboyd's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,947
Likes: 368
From: Las Vegas
Car: 1987 Formula (original owner)
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt/3.45
Re: Still Overheating... please help

Just a point-of-fact to begin with: 160* is not too cool, and you do not need to do any re-programming of the PROM to safely and successfully run a 160* stat.

That said, however, without lowering the fan temp in the PROM to better coordinate with the new lower-than-195* stat, then when you're sitting in traffic, even with a 160* stat, your engine will still heat up to the 220* range, which it apparently is. So that's nothing to worry about. Then when the fan turns-on, your engine should cool down to the fan-off temp(but not much lower) fairly easily and quickly. Now, that's for sitting in traffic.

But when running free-and-clear on the open road, if your engine temp is running in the 220* range, then you might have a problem somewhere. Because that's when your engine should be running in the temp range of the stat, which would be around 160* now.

You'll be getting a lot more fluctuating of the temps now than you used to because of the wider range between the stat and the fan temp. But from what you've said so far, everything sounds ok. So just keep monitoring your temps until you become confident with the gage and comfortable with the temp range you're seeing.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 07:29 AM
  #14  
DJP87Z28's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,771
Likes: 15
From: Florida
Car: 1987 Black IROC-Z (SOLD)
Re: Still Overheating... please help

Air Dam......For sure, if he running hot on the highway and moving in traffic.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 08:48 AM
  #15  
bcfipp's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Re: Still Overheating... please help

Thanks for the help everyone.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 10:46 AM
  #16  
GeeJenn91RSV8's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 301
Likes: 1
From: Pittsburgh Pa
Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: 305
Transmission: 700 R4
Re: Still Overheating... please help

Do you have an airdam? My car used to overheat and I found out there was no airdam on it. What a difference it made! Now my car barely gets to 220 on the hottest days.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2010 | 01:01 PM
  #17  
bcfipp's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Re: Still Overheating... please help

Yes I have an air dam. It is on correctly. Just need to see how the car runs for awhile. Hope the temp gauge is just off
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:06 PM.