I have a 82 camaro berlinetta with 327 small block motor runs hot will go up to 240 in traffic and if I'm driving 55 on the high way it hold's around 220 and start to going up again. I have a champion 3 raw radiator with there set up shroud and dual fans 1400 rpm each total 2800 rpm I have run both stat's 160 and 180 still the same thing. I pull the headers and rap them this help some but still the temp will go up if I don't watch it. I been put the car on the trailer and taken it to the track a few times never had a heat thing until driving it on the street in out side temp around 85 to 95. I have 1982 camaro assembly manual to see if the berlinetta came with some kinda air dam but don't see any type of air dam. My front hood is 3.5" tall at the front window with about 80 holes at the back to help let some of the heat out. I thought about changing the hood with 4" cowl / scoop with a 2" open in the front to let more air in. But with the front hood open the motor will cool like it should temp will go up to 190 fans kick in and go down to 175 and shut off.

My timing is set at 12 / total 38.
I thought maybe the fans was not strong enough for the motor.

I have read a few post could not find anything close to my set up.

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if your engine is overheating here is what to do. First make sure the coolant system is full and no more antifreeze than 50%(ethylene glycol) you will need an infrared thermometer (about$90) or borrow one. get the engine up to operating temp. if the car has a 190 degree thermostat the engine needs to be at least 190 degrees. if you have removed the thermostat replace it. get a good quality one. now that the engine is hot turn it off and take the infrared thermometer and scan the entire cooling system from the thermostat housing to the water pump inlet. the thermostat housing and upper radiator hose should be at least 190. if not here is no coolant circulating. check the water pump and thermostat. scan the radiator core at all 4 corners and center. look for a temp drop of 15 degrees or more. if the radiator doesn't have have a consistent temperature replace it. if everything else checks ok it is likely an airflow problem. make sure the radiator is getting fresh air and the fan(s) is working.

 

Fans are working, and I change the stat to 160 that what in the car now. 3 times the lower water hose blown off. But change to a better hose clamp so it's holding on now. Only over heats with the front hood closed. Buy the pics look to be air should flow OK....

The water pump came from jegs about 8 months ago.

Any 1 had this happen over heating when install a rebuilt engine in a third gen type car.

 

do you have a infrared thermometer? you can have the problem diagnosed in less than 2 minutes.

 

This is the 1st time I herd this, I check with Auto Zone over the phone they did not what I was talking about. I will google it, how do you use it to check heat problems.

 

In your pics, I see the top piece of the air dam(the black plastic part) that attaches to the underside of the lower radiator support beam. There should also be a lower piece, the air dam, itself(another black plastic part), that should attach to the bottom of the top piece, but I don't see that in the pics. It's that lower piece that deflects the air up to the radiator when the car is moving. Without that, the car will heat-up at highway speeds. I guess it doesn't happen at the track because those 12-second passes don't last long enough...

Regarding the blowing-off of the lower radiator hose, I doubt there's a spring in that lower hose, right? It looks rigid enough that it wouldn't be sucked closed under pressure, but I'm not familiar with that type of hose. So given the power of your engine, and the pressure it's probably capable of building, I'm wondering if that type of hose, even as rigid as it apparently is, would collapse under enough pressure without a spring inside of it. I suspect it would. And if it's getting sucked closed, that might explain the over-heating in traffic. And that would also explain why, after enough pressure builds-up above it, it would blow-off, which I'd think would happen at the track.

 

i know what you mean. i went to autozone and asked for a carburetor to manifold gasket for a quadrajet and they didn't know what a quadrajet was. an infrared thermometer is just a thermometer that measures temp by sending out a signal and it bounces back (like radar) you get instant temp readings which is very important. http://accesstotools.com/wp-content/...hermometer.jpg the laser option is just a pointer

 

and the fans are pulling, not pushing right?

 

The fans are pulling in.

 

The one thing I notice is you don't have the cover in front of the radiator. This is mine.

Mark.

 

So your saying right under the radiator the black/brown plastic is part of a air
dam mount. I can't find any pics of a Berlinetta with 1 to see what the hole set up look like on this type of car.

 

Thanks for the pic can you send me pics of all parts needed lower and uppers
I have a 82 chevy service manual and the assembly manual I do not see anything like this man. I'm going try to find air dam parts when I no all I need before a start changing the fans and hood. And the infrared thermometer going to pick 1 AC parts place.

 

Do have any pics of all parts needed and how they mount in place.

"O" car runs 11s

 

I could but my car has no air dam under the car. I don't know if it's supposed to but my car runs up to about 185 degrees in traffic so it doesn't need one.


Mark.

 

Do you have a link to the water pump you used? I see your running V-belts. Is it possible that you bought a reverse rotation water pump, meant for serpentine?

I dunno, just throwing it out there.

 

Hose petty strong, clamp may have been right on the water pump lip hump.

 

That something to think about this water pump came from jegs not sure about the part number this was oder over the phone the guy I talk to at that time told me it's a long light aluminum high flow water pump for 1965 327 block. I hope not
I hate to pull it off and pull the back cover off. But may check this.

 

Thanks this a keeper going to pick 1 up in the morning.

 

Well if its for a 69, than it is the proper one. Im just shooting an idea out.

 

Yes is cool, I'm going to check it.... I talk to a few guys local had the wrong pump install in the car before to. I will look for my jegs invoice for the pump.

Champion radiators told me run distill water only and red line water wetter before I do anything els to the car but going to check the pump for a revers pump.

 

Hey guys champion call me back again there going to send me out a new shroud free to try
man this is a good company to buy from.... very helpful to, I got this off of ebay there number is 1-714-432-1266 the guy I talk to name is Rick... I sent them pics to that when he call me back.

 

Yes, right there, that's where it should be if a Berlinetta is supposed to have an air dam. But I just searched the net, and I looked at about 50 pictures of Berlinettas, and none had a clear enough shot of the underside to be able to see if they have an air dam, so I was beginning to think they must've used only the body segment that curves underneath the radiator as its only air dam, rather than the typically-attached air dam that all the other models have. But then I finally found one picture where you can see the air dam in the middle, directly under the radiator, which might be why it's not visible on any of the angled-side shots I looked at.

So here's a pic of a car I found online... you can see the air dam hanging down, underneath the radiator. And in the link I posted there's a picture of that part on Hawk's website, shown for Camaros.

So a Berlinetta may or may not have come with an air dam, I don't know, but I'd think it would've. And if it did, then your car doesn't have one. It helps direct air up to the radiator when the car is moving. But looking at all the open airways to your radiator, the lack of an air dam might not be an issue for your car afterall. And if the car's only moving for 11 seconds, then it won't matter anyway.

http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/ca...torairdam.aspx

 

Thanks for your help and the pics man I been home all day looking in to the heating up thing in the engine bay, and try to find more info on the berlinetta front air dam and how it mounts. I could not find 1 real good pic of it mounted.

Going to keep as a weekend car not to much as a track car, I buddy of mind was racing ford gt mustang they guy had used to much nos motor went up in smoke he lost control of has car and ran in to the back side of my buddies
69 camaro SS 383 man both cars total they both work away ok, Kinda slow me down on running this car at the drag strip now.

 

Hey guys check this fan set up I found on the internet... I'm not sure of the size look to be about 14" to 16" fans 2 rows of 1" wide tubes

Dual Spal electric fans
3430 CFM Combined
Aluminum Shroud
Automatic Transmission Cooler
Aluminum Upper Mount

The fans are 13"

 

Well thats pretty awesome looking. I wonder if it would work well enough to cool the car?

 

Guy's I pick up a Lincoln Mark 8 fan now any 1 no how to wire this thing.

Where a can run the low and high speeds.

I was told this is the best fan out there.

"O" any have pics of all the air dam parts that will fit my car to.
Thanks for all of you guy's help

 

Man guy's the mark fan 8 is the fan to go with. I let the motor run up to 230 with the hood closed and turn the fan on low it pull the motor down to 180.

I'm ok now.

But still looking in to front air dam parts needed to for the front of the car.
I can not find any pics on the Internet to see how it looks and install on a car.

any help out there.

a pic of the fan install, I'm working on a bracket for it.
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this a pic of my old fan temp control adjustable, to used the mark 8 fan I just added 70 amp relay my old temp relay turns on the new relay that has the high power running to the mark 8 fan.

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And the 70 amp relay Cole Hersee Co part number RA 700112 RN paid $4.69 this is the 4 pen relay.

 

How did you wire it up? I have some taurus fans I need to wire in and I'm a little hazy on the wiring...

 

Yes wire it up for now just have to clean up the wiring. You will have to up date your alternator to 120 to 140 amp. And make sure use a relay that is 70 to 80 amp...