Bad ECM?
Bad ECM?
I have an 87 with a 2.8L. The car wasn't running when I got it and when I try to read the ECM i don't even get the service engine light. The light doesn't come on when I try to start the engine either. The engine cranks and almost fires but won't start and keep running. Since I get no response from the ECM when I short the A&B on the ALDL is seems like it could be a bad ECM. Has anyone seen this problem or have some helpful advice?
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Engine: check
Transmission: check
With the SES light not coming on with the key-on, engine-off check the bulb. Many times they have been removed.
I know, short answer, but check that and we can go from there.
(At key-on the SES should light, then blink off for about 1/2 second, then back on solid).
RBob.
I know, short answer, but check that and we can go from there.
(At key-on the SES should light, then blink off for about 1/2 second, then back on solid).
RBob.
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Originally posted by plymalebl
I changed the bulb already with a known good one. I also checked all the fuses.
I changed the bulb already with a known good one. I also checked all the fuses.
Also, does the fuel pump run for 2 seconds at key on?
If the above fuse is good and the fuel pump doesn't run (just the 2 seconds key on run), then yes, good possibility the ECM is bad.
RBob.
I can't hear the fuel pump run either at key on or when applying 12v to G on ALDL. Was thinking bad fuel pump but unsure since there is no response from ECM only the fans running. When trying to run pump in bypass I think the ECM still has to be good for it to work but not sure.
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Car: 86 Trans Am
Engine: 350 Roch-4bbl
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: Normal
Is it a bad ECM?
Hey,
Just got a reman engine installed.
SES light just stays on, can't get codes, light just stays on.
86 TA 4BBL AT
Just got a reman engine installed.
SES light just stays on, can't get codes, light just stays on.
86 TA 4BBL AT
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Transmission: TKO 500
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Have you checked to make sure the ecm has power? If you can get ahold of the pinouts, you can simply check with a volt meter whether or not it has power.
Probably not the problem but with these old cars you never know what could have happened to it. Might save $20 and a trip to the yard. I was removing what seemed like 300 lbs of wire, wire nuts, and duct tape from under the dash of my truck I bought from some hillbilly in a doublewide and I found him stealing +12 volts from what looked like the dedicated power lead for the ecm. He was using it to run a crappy alarm system and some other 12 volt accessories for a trailer. The things people do to their cars...
Probably not the problem but with these old cars you never know what could have happened to it. Might save $20 and a trip to the yard. I was removing what seemed like 300 lbs of wire, wire nuts, and duct tape from under the dash of my truck I bought from some hillbilly in a doublewide and I found him stealing +12 volts from what looked like the dedicated power lead for the ecm. He was using it to run a crappy alarm system and some other 12 volt accessories for a trailer. The things people do to their cars...
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Originally posted by plymalebl
I can't hear the fuel pump run either at key on or when applying 12v to G on ALDL. Was thinking bad fuel pump but unsure since there is no response from ECM only the fans running. When trying to run pump in bypass I think the ECM still has to be good for it to work but not sure.
I can't hear the fuel pump run either at key on or when applying 12v to G on ALDL. Was thinking bad fuel pump but unsure since there is no response from ECM only the fans running. When trying to run pump in bypass I think the ECM still has to be good for it to work but not sure.
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