Hi,

Who makes a complete ALDL cable for a 87 350 TPI car.
Serial connector for laptop on one side and connector that
plugs into car on the other.

New to this!!
And would USB on laptop side be better as laptop also has
USB port.

Thanks
One step at a time!!

jaykar

 

Jegs and Summit sell the cable. Unfortunately, it's about 200 bucks. There's a guy on ebay that sells directions on making your own. I think he sells the plans for around 10 bucks, and claims parts are readily available at you local Radio Shack for around 30 bucks if memory serves me. If you go that route, do a search on "accel dfi" and you should find it. Good Luck!

 

Hi,

Thanks,

$200.00 a little steep for just a cable.
Will check around and see what I can find.

Tuning still a month off anyway.

later

jaykar

 

$37 bucks -- includes shipping. Not the prettiest, but it works.
I sheathed mine in 1/4" convoluted tubing for a nice stock look.

http://www.customefis.com/

 

Hi,

Thanks for info.
Checked out your site and see I have some heavy reading to
do in the months ahead

You have some very good info as to tuning on the fly,especially
for our third gen systems.

Alot of the info,( Complete Greek,) but looks like going to have
to go back to school. Do not want to carb my new motor, as
fiqure can pull as much or more power with greater drivability
with injection on computer.
383-MiniRam and all the Rite Stuff.
502/500 already Dynoed but with Carb and 1/78 Long tube
Dyno headers. They didn't have a chance to really tune on it
as am going MiniRam anyway.
Consensus was another 25 to 35 HP&Torque possible.

Have bookmarked your site and will get back.

Later
jaykar

 

Err, thats not my site - just wanted to share a link I had.
You're right though, you do have some heavy reading to do in the months ahead

Have fun.

 

I'm about one half step in front of you, I got a interface kit from Steve Ruse at WOT Ekectronics. If you are really short of bread you can make your own see Tech Edge and do look at the Moats site.

LINKS:
www.wotelectronics.com
www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/aldl8192/8192hw.htm
www.moats.net

 

Hi,

Thanks for the links and info.

Think am going to get the molded cable complete and may go
with USB instead of serial to the laptop.

First going to make sure I don't have any problems with the
USB software or ports before I do. Running win98se so it should
be okay. If not will go with serial.

Thanks again, its a start. Hardware easy, Software

Later
jaykar

 

I'm using a Dell 366xt CPia Lattitude Laptop with Win98se, it has one serial, and one USB port.
I built my own adapter cable, and ued TSS Power Systems' OBD1 ALDL adapter test program to test it.
OBD1 ALDL Converter test program

TSS doesn't know if the program will work with any adapter, I assumed it would. Their program instructions only state to connect the adapter to the PC without connecting to the ALDL, However my adapter would not pass the test unitl I looped the TX to the REC because a loop back test was what I thought the program was designed to do since there wasn't a connection to the ECM.
when I tried it on my Laptop it failed, the USB port also failed.

If anyone has been successful in using a laptop to log data from the ECM, could you please post what you're using?

 

[QUOTE]If anyone has been successful in using a laptop to log data from the ECM

I connect to my 88 LB9 IROC using a Toshiba 233 laptop, serial port, AKM (WOTElectronics kit) RS232 cable interface, 10K resistor on A & B, using TunerPro to scan. Must use 10k resistor to mode select the ECM.
I also modified the AKM interface box, soldered 10k with a in series dip shorting block so I could enable or not and added 12vdc supply wire to my ECM cable plug with led indicator to get supply via the car.
The ECM takes about 30 secs or so to respond after plug-in, laptop running and ignition at start, SES lamp on. In Tunerpro I click connect until the connect window says monitoring....up and away.

On static test using serial cable power, no ECM cable connected.
TunerPro does not show hardware connection, I send a connect request (mouse click the connect button) and then I see my power led come on but it still will not see my hardware.
TSS DataMaster 32+32, I get nothing until I enable ALDL logging and click for a comms test...DataMaster then reports working OK..no PCM. Interface power led lights.
Hope this helps.

 

I'm using a 133mhz laptop with one serial port using a homemade ALDL cable. I just used the schematic on the WinALDL site. There like 3 parts and it wasn't hard to put together at all. I stuffed it inside of a serial plug w/ cover I got at radioshack. I used some small finishing nails with wires soldered to them to stick into the ALDL connector. Since its a junker laptop, I directly wired the laptop to a fused cig plug. Works good as long as the car is running.

I'm not sure if the WinALDL interface works with other programs or not. Free = good in my book. It provides me with more info than I know what to do with.

I also don't see a reason to use USB over a serial port unless you don't have a serial port.

 

Hi,

I decided to do it right the first time and went ahead and ordered
the MOATES APU1-GP1 and HDR1 reader-programmer and burner
all in one.

That way, once I learn the software can also do it on the fly.


Also comes with a licenced version of TunerPro RT I believe.
Going to start with my old TPIS Stage V chip and work up from
there. At least gives me a starting point.
First change going to be larger injectors.

Later

jaykar

 

One of the most rugged and lowest cost ALDL OBD1 cables I have seen is at:
http://www.aldlcable.com

They are quite sturdy, and if you look at the aldlcable.com website, you can see a picture under their kits section of all the parts used. Shipping is very quick, and for the price of $40 it is hard to beat.

This site also has quite a bit of information and links to the software packages available, and it explains the circuits used to make these cables.

 

hey yeah there is a guy on ebay selling complete aldl interfaces check out ebay #7967439592 comes with software and all..he's even got a website www.electronconcepts.com basically more of the same thing...nice looking setup...just plugs right in..and port powered

 

Remind me if I see this guy on TGO to flog him for price gouging on the chip and memcal adapters, and inappropriate claims that all of that software is free (i.e. TurboLink has a demo version, but the full will set you back about $300, and DataMaster's demo is only good for 20 sessions. I'd hardly even consider referring to either as "free")...

The aldl interface looks kinda cute, though.. but judging by everything else about this guy... wouldn't touch it.

 

I have one of the aldl adapters from the web page that gunny made reference to, can't get it to work on either my 730 or 165 ecm, got others to work fine.
Opened up the box on the adapter and found very poor construction, actually had a wad of paper stuffed into one of the circuit board mount holes because it was drilled in the wrong place so it was oversized to fit, which it didn't.

Solder work was poor, actually found one cracked. Uses nails to interface with the cars aldl connector which spreads them open kinda far, seems kinda hokey.
Don't waste your money like I did.

 

TechSmurf and Rebuildman, look at the name of the seller on the ebay auction referred to above....

The 2 transistor cable off of http://www.aldlcable.com seems the most simple and solid with the printed circuit board. A pict is at:
http://www.aldlcable.com/sc/details.asp?item=obd1diykit