Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
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Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
As some may know I'm currently running MS2 in my 85 running B&G code. I want to make the jump over to MS2 extra but am unclear if I need to make any mods to my board for ignition input and output.
I am currently running the HEI input mod with the module wired up like the picture below.

My gut says all I will have to do is make the change in the config and set "Spark A output pin" to JS10 but I want to be 100% sure.
I am currently running the HEI input mod with the module wired up like the picture below.

My gut says all I will have to do is make the change in the config and set "Spark A output pin" to JS10 but I want to be 100% sure.
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
As some may know I'm currently running MS2 in my 85 running B&G code. I want to make the jump over to MS2 extra but am unclear if I need to make any mods to my board for ignition input and output.
I am currently running the HEI input mod with the module wired up like the picture below.

My gut says all I will have to do is make the change in the config and set "Spark A output pin" to JS10 but I want to be 100% sure.
I am currently running the HEI input mod with the module wired up like the picture below.

My gut says all I will have to do is make the change in the config and set "Spark A output pin" to JS10 but I want to be 100% sure.
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
Yeah I thought that after I posted. I ended up emailing diyautotune and I was right.
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
The main reason is idle control and the 16x16 VE table compared to the 12x12 the B&G code has. I plan on installing AC in the car again before next summer so I kind of need idle speed control.
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
the ignition mods are slightly different iirc u will need to move 2 jumper wires.
if u need more help let me know, and the move to ms 2 extra from ms2 b&g is well worth
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if u need more help let me know, and the move to ms 2 extra from ms2 b&g is well worth
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Hrmm OK I guess I'll see how it goes. I'm going to start building a tune file this weekend so I have something to throw at it after I flash it over. Any clue as to which wires it might be? I have no problem making changes as long as I make the right ones.
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
I'm using the extra code.
I also made a small stepper circuit which my Micro controls using a 4 wire LSx IAC valve. The micro can't control a stepper in stock form, only a PWM or FIDLE valve. None of which I have found that will bolt to a GM throttle body.
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
got a link to ur current setup the picture in ur first post isnt working for me. once i know how ur wired up i can tell u what to change
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
Don't know where the link went but here it is again
http://www.megamanual.com/ms2/GM_7pinHEI.htm
I am running MS2 on a V3 board currently with the HEI mod from diyautotune. I run a stock IAC GM stepper motor an I have added circuits for fan control, and knock sensing. Primary fan runs off PM2 fidle output, secondary fan off PM3 injection LED output, and knock sensing off PA0 output.
EDIT: This is what I got from Matt Cramer at diyautotune on the issue. I asked him the same as I posted above and this what he responded with:
"You're correct, you can make it work like that as long as you leave the ignition input capture on Rising Edge like the B&G writeup."
http://www.megamanual.com/ms2/GM_7pinHEI.htm
I am running MS2 on a V3 board currently with the HEI mod from diyautotune. I run a stock IAC GM stepper motor an I have added circuits for fan control, and knock sensing. Primary fan runs off PM2 fidle output, secondary fan off PM3 injection LED output, and knock sensing off PA0 output.
EDIT: This is what I got from Matt Cramer at diyautotune on the issue. I asked him the same as I posted above and this what he responded with:
"You're correct, you can make it work like that as long as you leave the ignition input capture on Rising Edge like the B&G writeup."
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Re: Any MS2 Extra experts in here?
Just thought I would update this thread. I was finally able to flash my MS2 V3 over to MS2extra. I didn't have to make any hardware changes other than connecting the boot jumper. I made up a tune based off my old B&G tune and it fired right up. Took me a little while to understand the changes on IAC settings but in the end it makes more sense than in the B&G code. Now it's time to get out and fine tune everything which is always fun!
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