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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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DIY-WB o2 question

Got an echlin o2 sensor for the DIY-WB set up, but I read around that the sensor should say L1H1... Mine says L2H2, same echlin part number I can find everyone elce useing that echlin part number, just wanna know if this is a problem.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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Re: DIY-WB o2 question

Originally posted by rsc350
Got an echlin o2 sensor for the DIY-WB set up, but I read around that the sensor should say L1H1... Mine says L2H2, same echlin part number I can find everyone elce useing that echlin part number, just wanna know if this is a problem.
For the lack of seeing any anwers.

The only way I'd sort of trust it would be if I could run it back to back with a L1H1. Short of that, I dunno what you could do. It's the same as the one pictured at the DIY-WB site?.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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looks exactly the same, part # OS791 on the box from napa, was just takein a look closely and saw the numbers were different.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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I wonder if someone bought 2 sensors, and returned the OS791 with the cheap sensor in the box.
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Old May 15, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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What did you find out about l2h2? I have also heard of the L2H2 coming in the box in place of th L1H1. But have no details.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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E-mail I recieved from NGK Rep.

>> >Barry,
>> >
>> >As we have mentioned previously, UEGO wideband oxygen sensors are in
>great
>> >demand worldwide.
>> >
>> >Here are some facts that you may have interest:
>> >
>> >The original 5-wire wideband oxygen was produced for the aftermarket by
>NTK
>> >for the 1992-93 Honda vehicle. The Honda OEM application was their OEM
>part
>> >number 36531-P07-003 marked "L1H1" on the oxygen sensor and sold to
>ECHLIN
>> >under their part number OS791.
>> >
>> >The "L1H1" has been upgraded with the output being the same (a few wire
>> >color changes and length updates) to "L2H2".
>> >Honda's OEM part number for this "L2H2" is 36531-RCA-A01. You can go to
>> >Honda dealership and confirm the design to be the same.
>> >
>> >The "L2H2" was updated by Honda to the current "L3H3" which carries two
>> >Honda part numbers: 36531-RDJ-A01 and 36531-P2M-A01.
>> >
>> >All of the above are interchangeable for the air/fuel data logger Engine
>> >Management Systems.
>> >
>> >However, the BOSCH part numbers for their wideband oxygen sensors are not
>> >considered interchangeable with the NTK.
>> >
>> >BOSCH produces several of their own 5-wire wideband oxygen sensors:
>17014,
>> >17018, 17033, 17034, 17035, 17036, 17044, 17053, 17085, 17090, 17125,
>17138,
>> >17144, 17146, 17179, 17185.
>> >
>> >FYI
>> >
>> >Ralph Harris
>> >NGK Spark Plugs (USA), Inc.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 01:58 PM
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I to have heard of the L2H2 as I am trying to find an L1H1 for my DIY-WB. I am in AZ and checkerauto, proauto, autozone, bap import, and pepboys are all out of stock and unable to order the Bosch sensor 13246. There is 1 NAPA in AZ that has 1 sensor, the OS791, so I think this is great news. I ask the guy to verify l1h1 on the sensor body and he reports back that it is l2h2. So I drive over to take a look at the unit. Sure enough L2H2 It looks just like the l1h1 but has 2 different colr wires and a heat sleeve around the wires. It was being sold out of the OS791 box.

350$ was the asking price but he said he would give to me for 250$ but was unable to sell it any cheaper then that as he said that was as far as the computer would take it down.


Opinions PLease!!!

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Old May 16, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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Options!!!

You guys know I'm with a local NAPA Store. I've got the OS791 L2H2 for $220 + $10 shipping. That will save you $20. Your lucky to even have one that close to you! I don't think many of you will be able to find it at a local store. Napasales@go.com Thanks guys!
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Old May 17, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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yup yup hes right, im an employee of one too, he he cept i got mine Z'ed, only the napa guy would know what that means. Price is 220$, so i guess i just got a new updated model... cool, that helps relive some pressure.
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Old May 18, 2003 | 03:47 AM
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How long till you have the controller built?
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Old May 19, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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I got my sensor, but can't find the PCB. Anyone know where I can find one??
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Old May 19, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by ZZ28ZZ
I got my sensor, but can't find the PCB. Anyone know where I can find one??
Can order them through the site at:

www.diy-wb.org

Should have parts kits too.

A more direct link is:

http://www.diy-wb.com/info.htm

There is even a Digikey part number for the parts required to build the DIY-WB unit. That is cool, one part number gets you all of the parts.

RBob.
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Old May 19, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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Do you have the L1H1 or the L2H2 sensor?
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Old May 19, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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I tried the DIY EFI WB link a few weeks ago. It took me to a page where you fill out a form with name, address, etc. Got what looked like an autoreply msg that said there was a several week delay. Haven't heard anything from them since.

The sensor is the L1H1.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by RBob
Can order them through the site at:

www.diy-wb.org

Should have parts kits too.

A more direct link is:

http://www.diy-wb.com/info.htm

There is even a Digikey part number for the parts required to build the DIY-WB unit. That is cool, one part number gets you all of the parts.

RBob.
Is there anyone on the site that will build the WB unit for a fee?

Bill
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Old May 20, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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I imagine not. Anyone who upholds to the agreement of use at DIY-WB wont sell them either. You might be able to find someone and offer up another service as a trade.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by ZZ28ZZ
I tried the DIY EFI WB link a few weeks ago. It took me to a page where you fill out a form with name, address, etc. Got what looked like an autoreply msg that said there was a several week delay. Haven't heard anything from them since.

The sensor is the L1H1.
You should have received another email. This one once boards became available again.

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Old May 20, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by va454ss
Is there anyone on the site that will build the WB unit for a fee?
That's in violation of the agreement.
Bartering, is another matter thou.

As much as it is a neat tool, part of it's purpose is to be educational. If soldering, ain't your thing, might be time to learn, since with working with EFI it's just a matter of time before you need to be able to.
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Old May 20, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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Great pics of both L1H1 and L2H2

Check this out for detailed pics of both the L1H1's that I had and the L2H2's that I have. Same stuff guys. Need one? Write me: NapaSales@go.com


http://www.home.earthlink.net/~barry...gen%20Sensors/
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Old May 23, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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Re: E-mail I recieved from NGK Rep.

Originally posted by napasales@go.co

>> >The "L1H1" has been upgraded with the output being the same (a few wire
>> >color changes and length updates) to "L2H2".
>> >Honda's OEM part number for this "L2H2" is 36531-RCA-A01. You can go to
>> >Honda dealership and confirm the design to be the same.
>> >
>> >The "L2H2" was updated by Honda to the current "L3H3" which carries two
>> >Honda part numbers: 36531-RDJ-A01 and 36531-P2M-A01.
>> >
>> >All of the above are interchangeable for the air/fuel data logger Engine
>> >Management Systems.
>> >
>> >However, the BOSCH part numbers for their wideband oxygen sensors are not
>> >considered interchangeable with the NTK.
>> >
>> >BOSCH produces several of their own 5-wire wideband oxygen sensors:
>17014,
>> >17018, 17033, 17034, 17035, 17036, 17044, 17053, 17085, 17090, 17125,
>17138,
>> >17144, 17146, 17179, 17185.
>> >
>> >FYI
>> >
>> >Ralph Harris
>> >NGK Spark Plugs (USA), Inc.
Has anyone tried one of the L2H2's with the DIY-WB yet to verify that it is the same?
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Old May 24, 2003 | 04:58 AM
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Well I own an L2H2 and am in Phoenix AZ. It will be a few weeks before I get around to building the controler. If anyone in the area has a DIY WB-O2 they can use my L2H2 for testing Vs. the L1H1.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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How could I go about testing the L2H2 sensor if I have one but no L1H1 to compare to? I have a the built controller.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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Try to find someone locally who has an L1H1.
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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I cant find one around here for under $299, and even $220 seems too pricey for my budget. Is it possible to build a WB with a used sensor from a junkyard?
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by formularpm
I cant find one around here for under $299, and even $220 seems too pricey for my budget. Is it possible to build a WB with a used sensor from a junkyard?
Hunt around seems there are some still available for well under 200.
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Old Jun 2, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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I was at the junkyard for a spindle last week and just for grins looked at all the Hondas for a WB. No luck at the yard as all the motors in WB equiped civics had already been pulled.

I will be most impressed if you can find one for well under 200$!!!

Actually I will be impressed if you can find one at all for sale by retail outlet for less than 300$
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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Is there a source for wbo2 sensor connector other than a junk yard?
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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I just bought one online from Honda for $250
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 12:52 AM
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Primo>> If you do wind up at the junkyard, but can't find a Civic with a wide band o2 connector, the Civics have other connectors under the hood that will plug into a WB o2 sensor. I found 2 near the pass side shock tower. One was missing a wire the O2 sensor needed. The other one I found in the same area had all the wires needed. They were the wrong colors, but no biggie.
Best part was, when I asked the junkyard guy how much, he just shrugged his shoulders and said "take it".
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