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Old Jul 12, 2001 | 11:03 PM
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OBDII Scanner

Sorry to barge in here with a PCM question, but I shure could use your help with a few questions.

I am looking for scanner software to use on my laptop fo ra 96 LT1 OBDII.

The only one I can find is made by Ease and it costs $350. Is this my only choice and is it worth the price?

Does anybody make a programmer for ODBII?

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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 07:02 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by olephart:

I am looking for scanner software to use on my laptop fo ra 96 LT1 OBDII.

The only one I can find is made by Ease and it costs $350. Is this my only choice and is it worth the price?

Does anybody make a programmer for ODBII?
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I just got working with a 95 LT1, and using the Tunercat software made it a no brainer, well after asking some questions. I wound up setting up a *bench* to do the reflashing in the kitchen rather then the car.
So you need to go to:

www.tunercat.com, for the software.

http://www.mindspring.com/~amattei/techinfo.htm wil get you info on the cable.

There is a scanner and cable set up for the OBDII for $160, but I just can't find the URL right now. If you can't find it in the next day or two holler and I'll root around some for it

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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 09:24 AM
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Thanks Grumpy.

I looked at the Tuner Cat site again and they only show support for ECMs up to 1995. I Emailed them to see if they can do the PCM for a 96.

I've been doing a lot of reading on the net, but really know very little about this stuff.

I may have this wrong, but I think the LT1s up to 95 are really OBDI even though the 95 has some OBDII capability that can be scanned with an OBDII capable scanner.

The 96 is full blown OBDII and the software to scan and/or program OBDI will not work on them.

Do I have this right? Your patience in explaining this would be appreciated.

PS Still looking for the $160 scanner. If you find it, please let me know.
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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 09:30 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by olephart:
Thanks Grumpy.

I looked at the Tuner Cat site again and they only show support for ECMs up to 1995. I Emailed them to see if they can do the PCM for a 96.

I've been doing a lot of reading on the net, but really know very little about this stuff.

I may have this wrong, but I think the LT1s up to 95 are really OBDI even though the 95 has some OBDII capability that can be scanned with an OBDII capable scanner.

The 96 is full blown OBDII and the software to scan and/or program OBDI will not work on them.

Do I have this right? Your patience in explaining this would be appreciated.

PS Still looking for the $160 scanner. If you find it, please let me know.
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Ooops. I need more coffee earlier in the am I guess.

So far noone, has released any 96 PCM programmers that I know of. At this stage I'd say get a 95 PCM and work with that if you can. I know for a fact several guys have been working on the 96 stuff, but so far noone has been able to crack the system.

Also, with going with the 95 setup most of all your cheaper scanners will still work.

If you can scan me a copy of the 96 pcm pinouts, I'd be curious to see if the 95 and 96 are interchangable.

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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 09:53 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Grumpy:
If you can scan me a copy of the 96 pcm pinouts, I'd be curious to see if the 95 and 96 are interchangable.

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I would be happy to do this, but don't have a clue. Send directions for dummies and I will give it a shot. No scanner, but I have a digital camera w/macro mode if that will help.
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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 01:58 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by olephart:
I would be happy to do this, but don't have a clue. Send directions for dummies and I will give it a shot. No scanner, but I have a digital camera w/macro mode if that will help.</font>
I doubt a camera would have enough resolution. Maybe someone reading this will bail ya out.
I ran out of things to do (HAHHA), here's the link I was thinking of, for the scanner.

http://www.obd-2.com

I sure wish there was a way to run the 8051 PCM with a distributor. It's fun working with Flash PCMs.
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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 03:48 PM
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Just found this:

http://www.carputing.com/

They claim to be the ONLY product available to program the OBDII. They also have scanners.

Grumpy - They (just like you) said that changing to the PCM for the 95s and using ODBI was a good way to work with highly modded engines.
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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 04:02 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by olephart:
Just found this:
http://www.carputing.com/
They claim to be the ONLY product available to program the OBDII. They also have scanners.
Grumpy - They (just like you) said that changing to the PCM for the 95s and using ODBI was a good way to work with highly modded engines.
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I wouldn't spend a nickel with them.
That whole group started with help from over at DIY-EFI, and was to be freeware. If you check the acrhives at DIY-EFI, you can see it for yourself. I have no use for them.

Notice how they even lock it to one ecm.
Bunch of greedy, back stabbers in my book.
I've seen 8051s for %150, and getting tunercat gets you all the stuff they claim, least the last time I looked. Let's see $250, plus cable, vs $1500 plus cable. I'd bet ya that if you *lose* a computer by the time you actually got down *to it* they'd **have** to sell you a new outfit, whereas with Tunercat your still plug and play.
No thanks, that doesn't even sound like a fair never mind good deal. IMO.
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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 04:53 PM
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Apparently the '95 PCM will plug right into a '96 car.

http://members.tripod.com/CarProgram...Conversion.htm
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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 08:47 PM
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Thanks Grumpy.

Sounds like a nice group of citizens.

Fortunately, I have a little time since I won't be doing much 'till my extended warranty is up next Feb.

Hopefully I'll have some more choices by then.
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Old Jul 13, 2001 | 09:57 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by olephart:
Thanks Grumpy.
Sounds like a nice group of citizens.
Fortunately, I have a little time since I won't be doing much 'till my extended warranty is up next Feb.
Hopefully I'll have some more choices by then.
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Be sure to let tunercat know your interested, the more possible sales the more effort goes into product developement
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Old Jul 14, 2001 | 12:41 PM
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The original question was for scanner software for OBDII and I think Autotap is one that does it. I'm not 100% certain but memory seems clear enough. I also don't know the $ issue. It may be worse.
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