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Old May 28, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Prom info question

Ok, I am getting ready to start prom burning for the first time. When I put my combo together I purchased several things from TPIS, including their level 6 custom PROM. Now before everyone starts saying what a waist of money that was, I bought all of that stuff before becoming a third-gen member so I didn't know any better at the time. Now, the car attually runs pretty good with the TPIS PROM, but I feel that it can be tuned for even greater performance. My question is can I get the bin info off of my TPIS PROM? I was looking on Moates site and saw the HDR1 adapter. Is that what this adapter does? The PROM from TPIS looks just like a stock PROM, can info be pulled from that style of PROM? I am using Tunerpro & BURN 1. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Re: Prom info question

Well I don't know anything about Burn 1 (I use the autoprom), but if you can read your stock prom with it you can read the TPIS just the same.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Re: Prom info question

I haven't tried to read the stock PROM either. I was going to buy the HDR1, but wasn't sure if it was going to work.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Re: Prom info question

You should be able to read both your stock prom and the TPIS prom. I did the same and it's interesting to see the approach TPIS took in tuning. To get my engine to run much better than the TPIS chip I've made a lot of minor changes to satisfy my set up.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Prom info question

just curious, what type of engine mods do you have? what burning hardware & software are you using? and what did you use to read the PROM?
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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Re: Prom info question

Getting your hands dirty now huh Paul? lol

Pocket Programmer 2 and Romulator here.

Tunercat and datamaster for most stuff.

TunerPro for some stuff

All kinds of odds and ends

The learning will never stop from this point forward.

U ever have free time like sun morning or afternoon, hit me up and u can come out and we can play for a bit
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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Re: Prom info question

Originally Posted by paulbuiltbird
just curious, what type of engine mods do you have? what burning hardware & software are you using? and what did you use to read the PROM?
Mods: ZZ4 shortblock blueprinted and ARP fasteners; SLP ram air system; BBK TB 52mm; MiniRam II 1204 gasket; 24lb SVO injectors; 255 lph fuel pump running at 50 psi; 113 Dport heads ported with 2.02/1.60 undercut valves plus 30 degree backcuts and GM Racing springs; TPIS ZZ409 cam with 1.5 GM performance roller rockers; TPIS coated headers and full exhaust system using stock main cat; plus other minor items.

For DYI tuning went the cheap route: All Moates - that would cost about $265 for everything. Burn1 for chip pgming; GP1 adapter kit; HDRI Memcal Header for reading your TPIS and stock chips; ALDU1 and CABL1 setup for scanning; TunerPro RT software. All you need beyond this is a inexpensive laptop.

In fact the guy who helped get me started lives in Bartlett.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Re: Prom info question

Originally Posted by zz4350
Mods: ZZ4 shortblock blueprinted and ARP fasteners; SLP ram air system; BBK TB 52mm; MiniRam II 1204 gasket; 24lb SVO injectors; 255 lph fuel pump running at 50 psi; 113 Dport heads ported with 2.02/1.60 undercut valves plus 30 degree backcuts and GM Racing springs; TPIS ZZ409 cam with 1.5 GM performance roller rockers; TPIS coated headers and full exhaust system using stock main cat; plus other minor items.

For DYI tuning went the cheap route: All Moates - that would cost about $265 for everything. Burn1 for chip pgming; GP1 adapter kit; HDRI Memcal Header for reading your TPIS and stock chips; ALDU1 and CABL1 setup for scanning; TunerPro RT software. All you need beyond this is a inexpensive laptop.

In fact the guy who helped get me started lives in Bartlett.
Thanks for the info. My engine combo is very close to yours. I also have the mini ram II & ZZ409 cam. Ever have that thing on a dyno? what about to the track?
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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Re: Prom info question

Sorry - no dyno or track as yet. Want to get a wide band to confirm whats really going on but thats all.
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Old May 31, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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Re: Prom info question

I would recommend Moates setup and Tunerpro for beginning to tune.

Its just so easy to get started and driving in your first tune. I am not saying the other setups are any different, its just that it makes it much easier when you have access to so many different bins and masks.

Whatever you do get the adapter with a ZIF, its a cinch to pull a tab and pop the chip out so you can burn it. I like to use the SF512 chip myself.

Also, remember the operating range of your cam when doing your tuning.

Good luck!
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Old May 31, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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Re: Prom info question

Thanks for the info. I Am using tunerpro and I have a BURN 1. My next purchase is going to be the G1 with zif & a HDR1.
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