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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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29C256 on a '165 ECM?

Someone suggested that you can use this chip on a '165 ECM no problem. IS this true? I have a couple I bought for a friends '730 ecm...and would love to use them on a 165 if I can.

Anyone else? I wouldn't buy anything from the guy...(I think it was that Edmond guy that commented on it)...but if he is right on the chip...I'll go for it.

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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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Yeah, I use them all the time. You just have to start at 04000. I think that's the address - my burner and software are at home.
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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 03:49 PM
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04000? Is that a variable I can set in the old version of my Pocket Programmer software?

I'd appreciate it if you could let me know the exact address.

Also, could you run through a quick procedure or any changes you have to do when using these chips for a 165 ecm. Mainly just how to set it up to start burning at 04000?

I appreciate it.
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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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If you have the newer Windows Version of the Pocket Programmer software, then you just have to set the starting address for the device to x'4000.

If you are using the older DOS version, then you just "double up" the bin or load "hex 00" in the bottom half...either way works.

to "double" you do the following command:

>COPY/B NEW.BIN=OLD.BIN+OLD.BIN

Where NEW.BIN is the name of the new BIN file you want to create and OLD.BIN is the name of the old 16K BIN you want to "doubel up".
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Old Apr 5, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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I'm using that chip on my 165. I fill the bottom half with 00's then start at 04000 with the bin file. I think some people double the bin file by burning it on the lower and upper half. I believe the lower half is 000000 to 03ffff and the upper half is 040000 to 07ffff for a 256 chip but don't quote me on that. Sorry but I'm not using a pocket programer so I can not tell you exactly how it does it, but this is what works for me and they work great. Hope this helps.
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 07:33 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. Glenn, that dos command really helps...

I have the older dos version of the pocket prog stuff.

Last night I tried just burning from 004000 to 007fff and it failed. I am going to try combining 2 bins next.

Of course, I tried burning a 730 bin to the chip and it failed also...so I might be doing something else wrong. Or I toasted the chip when I screwed up with the 165 burn.

Was LS1thunder right with his lower half address? 000000 to 003fff? It sounds right.

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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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Greg,
I might have thrown you off a little by adding an extra zero. You should start at 04000 and end at 07fff. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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When I used the DOS Version, I found that I had to "prep" the Flash Prom with Hex FFs. I just created a 32K File with filled with Hex FFs, which lets the Dos Version of the PP know the Flash Prom is erased. But this is ONLY with the DOS version that I had to do this.

With the Windows Version, I just "rewrite" directly on the Flash Prom with nothing "funny". You may want to look at purchasing the Windows Version. I did and I much prefer it over the Dos Version - I don't have to "flip" back and forth between DOS and Windows on my Computer. Much easier to use IMO.
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Old Apr 7, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. I will try all this out as soon as I get the car back on the road.

I will upgrade to the win version of the pocket programmer software soon...maybe that will solve some of my issues.
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Old Apr 11, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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Win version solved all my problems...
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