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push button start instructions

Old Feb 8, 2001 | 10:44 AM
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push button start instructions

Hey guys if any of you have ever done this to your car could you please post some instructions on how to do this. i heard its not too hard but i havent done it so i wouldnt mind some instruction if at all possible

thanks in advance

gmitter

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)

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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 01:33 PM
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It is really simple have you ever shorted a starter to see if it still turns over will you take one wire from your positive on your starter(the big one) run that wire to your switch. Take your return wire from your switch to the little bolt to the right of your positive attatch it there and you have a push button starter.
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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 01:53 PM
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Transmission: TH350 W/Shift Kit
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thanks i didnt realize it was that easy what gauge wire should i use

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)

MUSTANGS SUCK
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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 08:11 PM
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It's not hard at all, just like baller said, just take the two wires, and run them to your switch. Make sure you put it in a place that is not too hard to get to though. I have had to do this to both of my camaros, and it is not really hard. Actually your friends will trip when you flip a switch or push a button, and your car starts!
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Old Feb 8, 2001 | 08:11 PM
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12 guage should be sufficent.
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Old Feb 9, 2001 | 12:34 PM
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Car: 1983 Camaro Sport Coupe
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one last thing, will i still have to turn the key to the on posisiton and then hit the button or can i make it so i can start it with the key or the button. my ignigtion is fine i just wanted to have the push buttonstart

thanks again

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)

MUSTANGS SUCK
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Old Feb 9, 2001 | 09:36 PM
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I'mm not for sure about being able do do them both. I do know that you have turn the key to the on position for the button to work. Hopes this helps.
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Old Feb 13, 2001 | 01:39 AM
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It's kinda late but Im thinking in order to have both you are going to have to have the key in the On position to use the push button. On the other had if you connected the on position from the ignition switch to a rocker switch and the start position to a push button you could flip the rocker and then hit the push botton. Wait a second that could work for both ways. If you really wanted you could connect the rocker to the On position and leave the ignition switch in place so that you could override the key with the rocker switch. If you know anything about wiring you'll know what I'm talking about. Like I said it's late and my heads not attached.
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Old Feb 14, 2001 | 10:43 AM
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From: PORT RICHEY, FLORIDA
Car: 1983 Camaro Sport Coupe
Engine: 1986 305 C.I.D. Bored .030 over
Transmission: TH350 W/Shift Kit
Axle/Gears: 3:08
actually i think i understand what your saying the only problem is that i dont know which wire is the "on" position wire in the ignition anyone know where it is or how to get to it or what color it would be

its an 83 camaro if that helps

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)

MUSTANGS SUCK
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Old Feb 15, 2001 | 11:43 AM
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The wiring diagram is in the Haynes manual. I don't have mine anymore. It got covered in tranny fluid. Anyone else got the info? I'm think about this as well now. Also use either a covered push button or have it hidden really well and out of touch so that you don't hit it by accident while you driving. That whould be REALLY bad. Also if I were to do it I would have two switches and have to hit both of them to start the car.
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Old Feb 15, 2001 | 11:04 PM
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Car: 1983 Camaro Sport Coupe
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Axle/Gears: 3:08
yeah i would really appreciate it if someone could scan in the page or pages from the haynes manual please

thanks

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)

MUSTANGS SUCK
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Old Feb 16, 2001 | 12:24 AM
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ive heard the key has to be ON...but my question is....does that key have to have the passkey in it? i only have a mechanical key...no "CHIP" in it. cant start it...tryin to rig a switch.

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Old Feb 16, 2001 | 11:11 AM
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good ? i dont think it has to have the passkey


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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)

MUSTANGS SUCK
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Old Feb 22, 2001 | 05:24 AM
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It does need the passkey because the ECM won't let the engine spark without it. Since BB got his car working already I'm just going to point out something. Ever notice that when the key is in the start position that the radio turns off? The key in position turns everything off to give all the juice to the starter. A pushbutton idea would be real easy but it might not work out the way you want. You need to put the key in anyways so why not turn the darn thing .
I like to think of it as convenience.

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Old Feb 22, 2001 | 04:58 PM
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There are aactually two circuits that come off of the "ON" position of the ignition switch. One circuit is hot in run and start, and the other circuit is hot in run only. The latter powers the devices not necessary for starting the engine, like the HVAC blower moter, etc.

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Old Feb 23, 2001 | 12:00 AM
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That's what I thought. So then you had better have a powerful battery

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Old Feb 23, 2001 | 09:27 AM
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ok just so its clear to me on my 83 camaro what will i need to make it a push button start. and is there any way to make it pushbutton start where you dont need the key at all(ill just put in a hidden kill switch)

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1983 CHEVROLET CAMARO with a 1986
305 C.I.D.V8 BORED .030 OVER
HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP
FLAT-TOP PISTONS
MILD CAM
3" CAT BACK EXHAUST W/ FLOWMASTER MUFFFLER
KEYSTONE CLASSIC WHEELS.
B&M RATCHET SHIFTER
STAGE THREE SHIFT KIT
(she'll spin em into third)

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 11:26 AM
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If you want to have a single on/off switch that will turn on the ignition system & accessories, & also have a push button switch for engaging the starter, you will need either high current switches, or high current relays and low current switches to do it - the high current relays & low current switches would be much easier to hook up and route the wires & it would function as it does now - turning off the hot in run only loads when the starter is engaged. I'd recommend using relays & switches.

If you use only high current switches, you will need a 3PST toggle switch (3 pole single throw, which is 3 on / off switches connected to one switch lever), or 3 separate SPST (on/off) toggle switches to function as the ignition switch, and one SPST momentary push button switch for the start switch. All switch contacts should be rated at 30 amperes.

If you use low current switches and high current relays (recommended), you will need four 30 ampere SPST Bosch relays (avaliable from Radio Shack), one SPST toggle switch, and one SPDT momentary push button switch. Any current rating will work for the switches, since they will only be switching the low current through the relay coils.

Relay / switch connection is as follows:

(The toggle switch turns on the ignition, and the momentary push button switch starts the car - the momentary push button switch will only operate the starter if the toggle switch is turned on, or if the factory ignition switch is turned to the on position.)

On all four relays, ground one side of each of the four coils, and connect the pole contacts of all four relays to the two red (battery power in) wires going to the ignition switch.

Connect the other side of the coil of the first relay to the SPST toggle switch. Connect the other side of the SPST toggle switch to one of the red (battery power in) wires going to the ignition switch. Connect the NO contact of the first relay to the pink (hot in run and start) wire coming from the ignition switch.

Connect the other side of the coil of the second and third relays together and connect them to the NC contact of the SPDT momentary push button switch. Connect the NO contact of the 2nd relay to the orange (hot in run) wire coming from the ignition switch. Connect the NO contact of the 3rd relay to the brown (accessory) wire coming from the ignition switch.

Connect the other side of the coil of the fourth relay to the NO contact of the SPDT momentary push button switch. Connect the pole of the SPDT momentary push button switch to the pink (hot in run and start) wire coming from the ignition switch. Connect the NO contact of the fourth relay to the yellow (start) wire.

If you choose to use only high current switches in place of the relays and low current switches, just substitute the switch contacts for the relay contacts in the explanatin above.

Ignition switch wires:
2 red wires: battery power
Brown: accessory power
Orange: hot in run only
Pink: hot in start and run


Also, don't forget that you will have to disable the steering wheel lock mechanism and the gear shift lock (automatic only), that is normally disengaged by rotating the lock tumbler from the off position.

Tim
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