Strange voltage problem
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Strange voltage problem
Ok guys, I need some ideas. Here's what my camaro is doing. Sometimes when I am letting it idle, it will idle too low, around 490 or so while in drive. It will start getting a little rough at that rpm naturally. However, after running for a good bit and warmed up, it will maintain a nice 550 while in drive. BUT, when i turn on the defrost, or the blower motor, SOMETIMES the voltmeter will drop well below the half way mark (somewhere around what would be like 9 volts. And it stays like that unless I turn the defrost off, or whatever has drawn the power. Now, my car never gives me starting porblems, it always has a strong crank, and I just replaced the alternator assuming that was the problem. (Alternator looked older than dirt, so I figured I'd replace it regaurdless.) I got a AC Delco alternator, and my battery is AC Delco as well. Seems this hasn't taken care of the problem. Any ideas? (Electrical is not my strong point, lol. )
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The best places to start trouble shooting the charging system are at the battery and alternator. Check voltage at both locations and see what you come up with. I wouldn't bother load testing the battery since it should be fine considering it's new, but by checking voltage in both locations you will find out if you have any wiring issues if your alternator is producing enough power (ie bad grounds, etc)
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Thanks for the advice Gummie, but one quick thing i gotta point out. It's my alternator that is new. The battery is a little older, but not by much. I guess I outta check out all the connections again. Like i said, i doubt its my battery cause if it was weak, normally you'd think it wuld die after a few days of me not running the car, which hasnt been a problem. the car always cranks strong and never acts like its dying. just this insane current draw from my blower motor and rear defrost. the rear defrost especially. and with it being intermittent and all, its confusing the heck outta me.
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The idea being to find out how much current/voltage is being lost between the battery/alternator and whatever's getting the power
You could also check against your gauge to see how accurate it is. You shouldn't be dropping that far with that kind of load.
You could also check against your gauge to see how accurate it is. You shouldn't be dropping that far with that kind of load. Thread Starter
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Ok. Im pretty sure the gauge is fine, because everything dims for a sec when i turn the defrost on.
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I also doubt your dash Volts gauge reading of 9 volts.
After 20+ years, the dash gauges are often un-accurate. It can be due to bad electrical and ground connections that lead up to the dash, not the gauge itself.
You need to use a handheld voltmeter and check the actual voltage at the Alt and battery.
If the car's voltage really dropped this low, your lights would STAY dim, not just dim for a split second (normally it takes a moment for the voltage regulator to adjust to a large load being applied to the Alt).
Without getting your hands on a voltmeter to troubleshoot what is really happening, all you can do is guess.
After 20+ years, the dash gauges are often un-accurate. It can be due to bad electrical and ground connections that lead up to the dash, not the gauge itself.
You need to use a handheld voltmeter and check the actual voltage at the Alt and battery.
If the car's voltage really dropped this low, your lights would STAY dim, not just dim for a split second (normally it takes a moment for the voltage regulator to adjust to a large load being applied to the Alt).
Without getting your hands on a voltmeter to troubleshoot what is really happening, all you can do is guess.
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Re: Strange voltage problem
Originally posted by PneumaticTire
Ok guys, I need some ideas. Here's what my camaro is doing. Sometimes when I am letting it idle, it will idle too low, around 490 or so while in drive. It will start getting a little rough at that rpm naturally. However, after running for a good bit and warmed up, it will maintain a nice 550 while in drive. BUT, when i turn on the defrost, or the blower motor, SOMETIMES the voltmeter will drop well below the half way mark (somewhere around what would be like 9 volts. And it stays like that unless I turn the defrost off, or whatever has drawn the power. Now, my car never gives me starting porblems, it always has a strong crank, and I just replaced the alternator assuming that was the problem. (Alternator looked older than dirt, so I figured I'd replace it regaurdless.) I got a AC Delco alternator, and my battery is AC Delco as well. Seems this hasn't taken care of the problem. Any ideas? (Electrical is not my strong point, lol. )
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Ok guys, I need some ideas. Here's what my camaro is doing. Sometimes when I am letting it idle, it will idle too low, around 490 or so while in drive. It will start getting a little rough at that rpm naturally. However, after running for a good bit and warmed up, it will maintain a nice 550 while in drive. BUT, when i turn on the defrost, or the blower motor, SOMETIMES the voltmeter will drop well below the half way mark (somewhere around what would be like 9 volts. And it stays like that unless I turn the defrost off, or whatever has drawn the power. Now, my car never gives me starting porblems, it always has a strong crank, and I just replaced the alternator assuming that was the problem. (Alternator looked older than dirt, so I figured I'd replace it regaurdless.) I got a AC Delco alternator, and my battery is AC Delco as well. Seems this hasn't taken care of the problem. Any ideas? (Electrical is not my strong point, lol. )
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thanks for all responses guys. Belt tension is the first thing i originally checked before just saying heck with it and got a new alternator. Well, turns out it wasn't the alternator. So, I need to look elsewhere, but its not causing my car to run bad or go dead, so screw it for now. lol.
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