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From: liverpool, NY
Car: 92 camaro RS
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Headlights
They will not turn on. I bought 4 Brand New lights the other day with no results. My high/low beam lever will NOT click out of high beams. Also when i turn my right blinker on and when im returning the wheel to a straight position it does not click back into place unlike when i turn left it clicks right back and the blinker turns off ? Ive been told my canceling cam is worn and that the dimmer switch may be the calperate of the non working headlights. Also when they did work all 4 lit when the highbeams were on. I've been told that's not supposed to happen and only the insides should be lit. What is my problem here and how do i fix it. Im trying to avoid replacing the pivot because the part is very expensive.
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Car: 83 POS monte carlo 2015 chevy P/U
Engine: 92 5.7 tpi 5.3
Transmission: 700r4 6L60E
Axle/Gears: 2.42 too high
very possible on the dimmer switch causing your headlights not to work. you need to fix or replace it either way.
on high beam all 4 lights are suppose to be on.
the turn signal canceling problem will be the turn signal switch needs to be replaced.
on high beam all 4 lights are suppose to be on.
the turn signal canceling problem will be the turn signal switch needs to be replaced.
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Car: 83 POS monte carlo 2015 chevy P/U
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Transmission: 700r4 6L60E
Axle/Gears: 2.42 too high
yes, the only diagram i can find is for adding relays to the wiring to increase the voltage to the headlights, remove the relays & its a factory harness.
the diagram is almost half way down,
https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/t...tupgrade.shtml
you'll notice the 2 wires coming from the high beam lights go to 2 of the wires from the low beam lights, 1 is the ground wire, the other is for high beam.
Trickster probably has a diagram without the relays if you need it.
the diagram is almost half way down,
https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/t...tupgrade.shtml
you'll notice the 2 wires coming from the high beam lights go to 2 of the wires from the low beam lights, 1 is the ground wire, the other is for high beam.
Trickster probably has a diagram without the relays if you need it.
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the diagramn just confuses the hell out of me
How can i check my relays to see if there causeing the headlights to not work, could it be a bad ground ?
How can i check my relays to see if there causeing the headlights to not work, could it be a bad ground ?
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Unless you have done some modification to your headlights, there are no relays in the circuit for the 1992 camaros. You will have a high beam headlight and a dual beam headlight on each side of the car. All four headlights will come on when you have the high beams selected. If you have a problem with the high beams not turning off there is a good chance that the rod going to the dimmer switch on the steering column under the dash is bent or out of its track. You could also have a bad dimmer switch. As far as the cancelling cam for the turn signal is concerned they are not that hard to change and they sometimes fail to turn the signal off because the wheel wasn't turned sharp enough. I have this problem with three new vehicles that I own. Aggravating really because if the wife is riding with me she never fails to remind me of it.
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Originally posted by Trickster
Unless you have done some modification to your headlights, there are no relays in the circuit for the 1992 camaros. You will have a high beam headlight and a dual beam headlight on each side of the car. All four headlights will come on when you have the high beams selected. If you have a problem with the high beams not turning off there is a good chance that the rod going to the dimmer switch on the steering column under the dash is bent or out of its track. You could also have a bad dimmer switch. As far as the cancelling cam for the turn signal is concerned they are not that hard to change and they sometimes fail to turn the signal off because the wheel wasn't turned sharp enough. I have this problem with three new vehicles that I own. Aggravating really because if the wife is riding with me she never fails to remind me of it.
Unless you have done some modification to your headlights, there are no relays in the circuit for the 1992 camaros. You will have a high beam headlight and a dual beam headlight on each side of the car. All four headlights will come on when you have the high beams selected. If you have a problem with the high beams not turning off there is a good chance that the rod going to the dimmer switch on the steering column under the dash is bent or out of its track. You could also have a bad dimmer switch. As far as the cancelling cam for the turn signal is concerned they are not that hard to change and they sometimes fail to turn the signal off because the wheel wasn't turned sharp enough. I have this problem with three new vehicles that I own. Aggravating really because if the wife is riding with me she never fails to remind me of it.
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they highbeam dash light isnt lit anymore, it was like that before i touched anything. Not sure why, but it wont click back onto the highbeams. I found the peice that the rod runs too, how do i adjust it, it seems like its not pushing down enough for it to change.
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The only picture that resembles the part is the last one

sry thats the best i could do. Im trying to figure those diagrams out. What do i do with a drill bit ?

sry thats the best i could do. Im trying to figure those diagrams out. What do i do with a drill bit ?
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From: conway, s.c.
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You put the drill bit in the hole shown in the picture and adjust the switch until it the bit touchs the area shown. then tighten the hold down screws and it will be properly adjusted. if it still doesn't work then you will probably need a new dimmer switch.
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thank you, ive been looking for an aswer like that for about a month now on several forums. THANK YOU.
THANKS AGAIN TRICKSTER
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Originally posted by Trickster
You put the drill bit in the hole shown in the picture and adjust the switch until it the bit touchs the area shown. then tighten the hold down screws and it will be properly adjusted. if it still doesn't work then you will probably need a new dimmer switch.
You put the drill bit in the hole shown in the picture and adjust the switch until it the bit touchs the area shown. then tighten the hold down screws and it will be properly adjusted. if it still doesn't work then you will probably need a new dimmer switch.
heh, those hold down screws are some kind of a sick joke. There is no way you can get to them.
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Oh come on, you can do it or pay someone else $150. Take the seat out , remove the safety bar and take the c clamp bolts out that hold the steering column in place, marking locations and doing so, gently drop the steering column down far enough to get to the Dimmer adjustment screws as Trickster has advised. Its a PITA, but well worth the effort. Previously Trickster I think advised to keep the rod in place, use a tie wrap, tape, string or something attached to the column to keep it secure. The thing is, you don't want to accidently disconnect that rod between the Operating Lever and the Dimmer Switch. Have everything in place with a helper or jury rig a strap to hold the steering column. Loosen the two screws that keep the dimmer switch in place, may need to move slightly to get the drill bit in. There is a hole in the column that accepts the bit in order for the proper adjustment per Trickster's directions. Disconnect battery prior for Safety. Good Luck! PS, Have wheel tilt straight and after adjustment and screws are tight, try for the headlight click before putting everything back in place. Last edited by Big AL91; Jul 18, 2005 at 04:56 PM.
Everything is on the steering wheel nowdays. Cruise, radio, turn, radio controls,etc etc etc. F1 shifting for everyone is on the horizon to add another. Like putting 10 lbs of crap in a 5 lb bag. Everythings retro retro retro now. How about GM and Ford put the Dimmer switch back down on the floorboard where it used to be and has always belonged. It gives the left foot something to do. Don't you hate it when you go to put the turn signal on and you click your lights instead. 1 stalk 5 operations. Now 10 times harder to fix.
I just came up with a real easy solution to this problem. In a post a couple up that I wrote. I was complaining that I liked the dimmer switch when it was on the floor in old cars better anyway.
I was going to just let mine go, beacuase I didn't want to go through all the hassle, but I really want mine fixed.So, I'm going to fix mine exactly like I want it anyway. No hours of agony lying on my back dropping column, fiddling with rod actuator etc etc. I went to the auto parts store, picked up an old school floor mount dimmer switch that is three pronged. I pulled the pigtail off the column switch. I'll spade plug the pigtail, mount the new (old school) switch under the rubber foot rest molded into the carpet cut a little hole around it, so it looks good and wala lights fixed. No major hassle. I'll post pics when I've got it all done. Enjoy!
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I was going to just let mine go, beacuase I didn't want to go through all the hassle, but I really want mine fixed.So, I'm going to fix mine exactly like I want it anyway. No hours of agony lying on my back dropping column, fiddling with rod actuator etc etc. I went to the auto parts store, picked up an old school floor mount dimmer switch that is three pronged. I pulled the pigtail off the column switch. I'll spade plug the pigtail, mount the new (old school) switch under the rubber foot rest molded into the carpet cut a little hole around it, so it looks good and wala lights fixed. No major hassle. I'll post pics when I've got it all done. Enjoy!
Nato
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Originally posted by natorc51
I just came up with a real easy solution to this problem. In a post a couple up that I wrote. I was complaining that I liked the dimmer switch when it was on the floor in old cars better anyway.
I was going to just let mine go, beacuase I didn't want to go through all the hassle, but I really want mine fixed.So, I'm going to fix mine exactly like I want it anyway. No hours of agony lying on my back dropping column, fiddling with rod actuator etc etc. I went to the auto parts store, picked up an old school floor mount dimmer switch that is three pronged. I pulled the pigtail off the column switch. I'll spade plug the pigtail, mount the new (old school) switch under the rubber foot rest molded into the carpet cut a little hole around it, so it looks good and wala lights fixed. No major hassle. I'll post pics when I've got it all done. Enjoy!
Nato
1991 Z28
2001 RC 51 (Torque vs. HP)
I just came up with a real easy solution to this problem. In a post a couple up that I wrote. I was complaining that I liked the dimmer switch when it was on the floor in old cars better anyway.
I was going to just let mine go, beacuase I didn't want to go through all the hassle, but I really want mine fixed.So, I'm going to fix mine exactly like I want it anyway. No hours of agony lying on my back dropping column, fiddling with rod actuator etc etc. I went to the auto parts store, picked up an old school floor mount dimmer switch that is three pronged. I pulled the pigtail off the column switch. I'll spade plug the pigtail, mount the new (old school) switch under the rubber foot rest molded into the carpet cut a little hole around it, so it looks good and wala lights fixed. No major hassle. I'll post pics when I've got it all done. Enjoy!
Nato
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Originally posted by Trickster
Not to bust your bubble on this and ruin your fun, there have been several members of the board that have already done the conversion that you are talking about.
Not to bust your bubble on this and ruin your fun, there have been several members of the board that have already done the conversion that you are talking about.
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my fury has the button on the floor, i love it.. its especially funny when complain that they cant find the brites on these types of cars, i jus laugh when ever i hear it
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my fury has the button on the floor, i love it.. its especially funny when complain that they cant find the brites on these types of cars, i jus laugh when ever i hear it
my fury has the button on the floor, i love it.. its especially funny when complain that they cant find the brites on these types of cars, i jus laugh when ever i hear it
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im just curious but what would knock the rod out of adjustment. It was correct at one time now either to rod is bent or the switch is screwed. What could cause the rod to bend ?
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Personally, in my experience it was not the rod per say, the Dimmer Switch being spring loaded much like the wall switch in your home becomes weaker and it requires more rod travel to click between high and low beams, thus adjustment is required. Same difference should a new dimmer switch replacement be required. There are other factors that play a role such as lever operator wear. The 1st notice I had became aware when tilt was at its lowest point and the higher the wheel tilted, the better the Lever and Dimmer worked as evidenced by the strong click as opposed to weak or none. IMHO. Thread Starter
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i just pulled the seat and climbed in and when i was depressing the switch i noticed that it looks like its going down as far as it would go, i even pushed down with my hands and it still didnt switch from high/low beam. No click no nothing. Does this mean that the switch is bad ?? Is it even the switch ?? Im lost and i really want my car on the road this summer
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I always liked that color combination on your formula. Turbo hood?
I always liked that color combination on your formula. Turbo hood?
i have always found it to be rather purrty myself. it does have the hood
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You are seeing what was explained in your question statement. It does mean that the dimmer switch is out of adjustment or it is bad. Adjust per Trickster's directions, if it works, great and if not , buy a new one at GM and install. Time and Patience. Good Luck! Thread
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