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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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checking for small battery draw

how do you guys go about checking for a small battery draw by checking it between a battery cable and battery post ?

test light ? or is a small draw even enough current to light up a test light bulb ?

if i were to use a digital multimeter then what setting should i use ?

im thinking it may be the sterio i installed recentl,y but who knows, it may be glovebox light or trunk light or something else('84 impala)

never had this problem until recently after i cut the cumputer out(so that i could swap a non CCC carb on)
and put in a cassette sterio

i dont know if i need to look for amps or volts in the draw between cable and post




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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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Typically, an ammeter is used in series. Disconnect a battery cable, connect in the ammeter to complete the circuit (noting polarity), and read the current. Start with the meter on the highest current scale just to be safe, then lower the scale as necessary for best resolution.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:09 AM
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what setting would this be on a digital multimeter tester ?

theres ohms(resistance) and volts and continuity, i dont see anything else, no way to measure amperage flow with a multimeter afaik ?


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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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If your meter won't measure current, you'll have to use something else.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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You'll have to get a better meter then.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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harbor freight sells the little yellows ones for less than $5. we own 8
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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Any meter will work fine as long as it actually reads amperes. Put the meter on its highest setting so you dont blow the fuse!

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Most meters do not read current without an amp clamp adapter, only voltage.

Take a volt-ohm meter and connect one lead to the negative battery post and one to the ground cable. Note if there is a volt draw. If no voltage, no short or nothing is drawing voltage. Keep in mind that minor things like the radio may draw minute amounts of current for the pre-set memory. Your system is only 12 volts so that setting if selectable is fine.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by 2kflhr

Take a volt-ohm meter and connect one lead to the negative battery post and one to the ground cable. Note if there is a volt draw. If no voltage, no short or nothing is drawing voltage. Keep in mind that minor things like the radio may draw minute amounts of current for the pre-set memory. Your system is only 12 volts so that setting if selectable is fine.
Either: 1. your method won't help at all for the reason you mentioned, or 2. you have your terms mixed up.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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You can put a giant resistor in-line with the battery + terminal and measure the voltage drop across it. The only problem with this setup (and all 12VDC in-car current measurements) is that even with eveything off, if you're getting a load anough to actually notice, it's probably going to be in the 30+W range. Resistors that large can be expensive. Not necessarily are, but can be.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by 2kflhr
Most meters do not read current without an amp clamp adapter, only voltage.

Take a volt-ohm meter and connect one lead to the negative battery post and one to the ground cable. Note if there is a volt draw. If no voltage, no short or nothing is drawing voltage. Keep in mind that minor things like the radio may draw minute amounts of current for the pre-set memory. Your system is only 12 volts so that setting if selectable is fine.
I don't even know where to start with this one, but just ignore it.
And if using a resistor as a shunt you would need a vary low value/high wattage PRECISION resistor (and an accurate mV meter), or just get one sold as a shunt.
But it would be cheaper to just buy a DMM that will read current directly. And YES they are easy to find without clamp-ons.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by 2kflhr
Most meters do not read current without an amp clamp adapter, only voltage.

Take a volt-ohm meter and connect one lead to the negative battery post and one to the ground cable. Note if there is a volt draw. If no voltage, no short or nothing is drawing voltage. Keep in mind that minor things like the radio may draw minute amounts of current for the pre-set memory. Your system is only 12 volts so that setting if selectable is fine.
Ok, Ignore my previous post. But if I remember correctly you can connect a 12v test light between the negative post and negative cable and if the light glows something is pulling current. Is this not correct and will a Volt-Ohm meter not work the same way?
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by 2kflhr
Ok, Ignore my previous post. But if I remember correctly you can connect a 12v test light between the negative post and negative cable and if the light glows something is pulling current. Is this not correct and will a Volt-Ohm meter not work the same way?
Bulb will work. Volt meter will not. But glowing doesn't mean anything unless you know how much you are drawing and if its within acceptable range. That's like measure clearances with a yardstick.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Since this seems to be a question asked often and since this was way to much info to type and explain it in a way people would understand I dug out my books (I am retired so don't need to have my books handy anymore ) This info is a little dated (1990 or so) but the basics never change....lets see if this works

Edit: lol excuse any underlining or notes this was a book I used in my GM electronics certification class












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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by 2kflhr
Ok, Ignore my previous post. But if I remember correctly you can connect a 12v test light between the negative post and negative cable and if the light glows something is pulling current. Is this not correct and will a Volt-Ohm meter not work the same way?
I get where you’re coming from now. The thing is a test light and DMM (set to voltage) act like two different thing. With the DMM set to voltage it should be ‘seen’ as an open (should be at least 10Mohms per volt), so no current flow. With no current flow you get no voltage drop. So using the voltage meter like this should show you the full battery voltage as there is no voltage drop through the circuit. With the test light, you have a relatively low resistance so you can get current flow, and then voltage drop across the filament, depending on the resistance of the rest of the circuit.
I don’t like the test light method because it assumes too much. The amount of current to get the light to light up will depend on the light bulb. Different light bulbs will light different amounts for the same current. Way to hit-and-miss. I like the post above (other then the test light part).
Get a DMM that will read current and go at it.
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