was taking some night shots of my car tonight and i noticed when i have my low beams on both my low beams high on, but when i go to high beam the low side goes out. any idea? its a fairly new bulb so idk.

 

That's how it works.

 

damn

 

Your fogs shut off with the high beam as well, if you have them that is.

 

The 'fog light off with high beams on' is a simple override of a relay, on Firebirds.

And why not put Hi/Lows in both buckets? Simple rewiring should take care of that & give you dual His & dual Lows. Or just rewire to bypass the Hi beam cutoff for the Lows. Did that YEARS ago to a Camaro I had, but cannot recall just how I did it, except that the headlights never came out. Just rewiring at the headlight plugs themselves.

 

on the camaros theres 1 wire you gott redo to get the fogs to stay on. I like idea of dual hi/lo beams though.

 

I was unaware of this!, my low beams stay on when high beams are on.

 

thats normal

 

Actually, it's not. The low beams are on the low beam circuit, which is turned off when the high beam circuit is turned on.

 

someone probably wired them to stay on with the highs.

 

I know this is an old threat but my camaro has no rewiring done to the headlights and with the high beams on both low and high lights are on.

 

ok?

 

I am just giving my input. Don't get all pissy. Damn. Most camaros have it work like mine does. Something is either wrong with your wiring or that's how your car came wired up. The bulb is a duel filament so that means it should be on in both high and low. Just trying to help so chill.

 

Never mind what I said, I guess I am missunderstanding what everyone has been saying.

 

and i wasnt getting pissy, i didnt understand if you were trying to ask a question on if yours was right, wrong, making a statment or what. whats why i put ok hoping for a further input.

 

Oh, now I feel like a real jerk. i apologize man. No, it wasn't a question. I reread your original post like three times and still don't fully understand what you were stating. I am only saying while with my high beams on, all four lights are on, being high beam filament on the outer lights and then the high beam inner light. I just wanted to try and get a final answer to this to tie up the threat I guess.

 

Just some info from Jim85IROC, concerning Camaro fogs, that I thought was interesting:

From 86-on, your fog lights would work with your parking lights on and when your low beams are on. As you learned, they won't work with high beams.

BUT... in 85, in addition to many other one-year-only peculiarities, the fog lights would come on ONLY with the low beams. With just your parking lamps on, the fog lights will not come on.

JamesC

 

no hard feeling man lol, trust me if i would have taken it to heart there would have been a fight, yeah its weird on these cars, some cars only have the high beams on and no low beams, some have both

 

Inner = high beams
outer = low beams

Highs or lows will be on, but not both at the same time.


Headlights
Circuit Operation:

Voltage is applied to the light switch at all times. The light switch includes a self-resetting circuit breaker which opens and closes if the headlight circuit draws too much current. When the light switch is in "Head," the headlight dimmer switch directs current to either the lo beams or the hi beams. Current to the hi beams also flows to the high beam indicator.

Troubleshooting Hints:

If only one headlight doesn't work in both "hi" and "lo", check the ground wiring.

If headlights don't work in just "hi" or just "lo", check headlight dimmer switch.

If headlights flash on and off with switch in "head," isolate short to ground. Operate the headlight dimmer switch to find if the short to ground is in tan or lt grn wires.

If only the "hi'" headlights flash on and off, check lt grn wires for shorts to ground.

If only the "lo" headlights flash on and off, check tan wires for shorts to ground.

If both "hi" and "lo" headlights flash on and off, check the yel wire for a short to ground.

JamesC

 

Whenever i turn my highs on, my lows stay on and redirectionalize themselves as if they are hi/low beams, as well as the highs turning on.. Perhaps the hi + low beam thing is a State Specific mandation?, while the others are designated otherwise?...(Any other Cali owners wanna confirm?)

 

Just curious (hey, Cali is Cali after all ) and found the following, which makes no mention of anything out of the ordinary:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24407.htm

JamesC

 

Also, it may not be limited to Just California, if this is the case!

 

I'd use this as an example, however, I'm unsure if their vehicle was made for PA, or another state, and transferred to PA. Care to confirm or deny, Dev?...
would be nice to get this information 100% accurate. I mean No disrespect in doubting your facts Btw JamesC. I just don't wanna rule anything out before possibilities are covered

 

None taken. I'd be surprised if headlight function differed from state to state--and I've certainly never heard of that issue in my years on TGO. More likely the problem originates in the short to ground mentioned above:

If both "hi" and "lo" headlights flash on and off, check the yel wire for a short to ground.

JamesC

 

I am not sure where to find that information. I would be glad to tell you though. I def. have to say that this all seems to be a bit confusing. The low beam filament is on in low beam mode and the high beam filament is on in high beam mode in the outer lights. If that makes sense.

 

Ah, sorry dev! I forgot that its easier to pinpoint a Cali car from
all else, due to specific California designated RPO codes.

YF5 : CERTIFICATION, EMISSION, CALIFORNIA, for example. &

NN5 : EMISSION OVERRIDE, CALIFORNIA SYSTEM, FEDERAL

 

I do not believe the headlights are being wired differently from state to state. Look at any repair manual. I have the factory GM repair manual for my camaro and the diagram for our headlights specifically show the 12+ wire for the high beams run to all four bulbs.

Also look at part numbers for our headlights on the camaro. The lowbeam is a 4656 which is a dual element bulb. 4651 is single element and is for high beam.

 

My car will have the low beams on when the high beams are on. It is also a cali car btw, but i believe that is the way they all are.