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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 03:53 AM
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Digital dash bulb question

The backlight bulbs seems to be 168 5w

But what kind of bulb is behind the indicators/high beam? A much smaller bulb
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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 06:53 AM
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Re: Digital dash bulb question

Assuming you are talking about the 86-88 digital dash from a Trans Am/GTA. See post #59 in this thread: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...ml#post6209920
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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 08:26 AM
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That’s the one. I knew I could count on you 😃 Thanks for the reply

In my dash there are 168:s and in your 194:s. Strange. As far as I could tell the 168 is a bit brighter than 194

Two more questions

Do you have to remove the steering wheel to get the dash out?

And on my odometer there are parts of some digits missing. Can the cause be bad solderings on the board, or just oxides on the lcd pins?
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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 08:36 AM
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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 09:58 AM
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​​​​​​What kind of socket is this?

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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 01:49 PM
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Re: Digital dash bulb question

Must add that the car is a 1987 Trans am 305tpi with digital dash. Didn’t find how to add a signature from the iphone
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 01:41 AM
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Re: Digital dash bulb question

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That’s the one. I knew I could count on you 😃 Thanks for the reply

In my dash there are 168:s and in your 194:s. Strange. As far as I could tell the 168 is a bit brighter than 194

To my knowledge the 168 is 3 candle power, and the 194 is 2 cp, which is consistent with your findings. I'm not totally sure, which one of these were originally in the dash as I removed the bulbs and replaced them with some high power LEDs.

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Two more questions

Do you have to remove the steering wheel to get the dash out?
No, but you might have to remove the two nuts that hold the steering wheel up so you can lower the whole steering wheel column.

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And on my odometer there are parts of some digits missing. Can the cause be bad solderings on the board, or just oxides on the lcd pins?
Usually this is a bad connection on the pins, try to clean them, that usually does the trick
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 01:46 AM
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Re: Digital dash bulb question

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​​​​​​What kind of socket is this?
This kinda looks like a GE882 "Printed Circuit Socket". You probably removed this bulb from behind the pressure gages, right? In that case it is the hidden generator lamp which is not used as a back light but only for the alternator as a starting resistor.
If you got it from behind the indicator lights then it's just a printed socket base for the respective 168/194 or 74 bulb

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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 07:07 AM
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Thanks to you I got the spare odometer going on the work bench. It seems fully functional. Better than the one in the car. If I want to put this one in the car, all I have to do is to swith the odometer chip. Right?

And is it a possibility to just remove the DIC and the Odometer and leave the other part of the dash in place. And then wiggle out the bulb from the inside?

By the way, have you polished your lcd screens? I wonder what to use?

Last question? Do you have a link to the leds you used? There are many types of 194 led out there...

Many questions. But without everything you have published I would never been able to do this. Thanks Cehbra!


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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 03:33 PM
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Re: Digital dash bulb question

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Thanks to you I got the spare odometer going on the work bench. It seems fully functional. Better than the one in the car. If I want to put this one in the car, all I have to do is to swith the odometer chip. Right?
Exactly! Make sure the EEPROM's notch is on the same side as it was.
Cool that you got that up and running on the bench!

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And is it a possibility to just remove the DIC and the Odometer and leave the other part of the dash in place. And then wiggle out the bulb from the inside?
No, don't do that! If you remove the screws that hold the dash and lower the steering wheel column you can just remove the whole thing and you get access to all the bulbs from behind the dash. The other way around carries the risk of breaking one of those fragile LCDs.

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By the way, have you polished your lcd screens? I wonder what to use?
I haven't tackled that yet as I fear I might destroy the foil. I'm interested in your experiences though.

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Last question? Do you have a link to the leds you used? There are many types of 194 led out there...
I have used different kinds of LEDs, and most seem to work well, if in doubt go for the brightest ones, warm white gives a more stock looking appearance than neutral or cold white. Don't use CanBus-LEDs. Here are some links, all of them work well:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...16714c4dnDHMjC

https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...-car/206/6773/

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/50pc...16714c4dnDHMjC


By the way: the hidden generator lamp shouldn't be replaced with an LED, just leave it where it is.

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Many questions. But without everything you have published I would never been able to do this. Thanks Cehbra!
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 09:43 AM
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I’ve tried Displex plastic polish on the DIC LCD screen. I think it worked perfect. But I must say that I take no responsibility if you try. I tested under the button since the screen continues under the button. So this spot is hidden. Perfect for a test.

Some ot the other screens seems to be painted though. They might be harder to polish.

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