I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
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I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
I thought it was a plug wire issue but it’s nkt, brand new accel wires yesterday also no arcing. I get out of the car and touch the roof or something and get a good zap. I don’t think it’s static electricity either bc I had just put the car on a friends hoist and came back and touched the bottom of the frame and got a small shock. What the heck is going on
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Re: I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
So by shock are you referring to a static shock, or a continuous shock?
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No joke, that really is the answer. It's just static electricity.
12V battery won't shock you. Your skin is a good enough insulator to prevent that. You can get burned from heat if you decide to thrust your hand into the middle of an active short circuit event, but that's about the only way you can get injured.
There is one device on the car though that runs around 40,000 Volts and it will pop the **** out of you. It's the ignition coil. But the chassis is battery ground so you can't get shocked by touching the chassis.
12V battery won't shock you. Your skin is a good enough insulator to prevent that. You can get burned from heat if you decide to thrust your hand into the middle of an active short circuit event, but that's about the only way you can get injured.
There is one device on the car though that runs around 40,000 Volts and it will pop the **** out of you. It's the ignition coil. But the chassis is battery ground so you can't get shocked by touching the chassis.
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Re: I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
And uh.... maybe somebody else should fill your gas tank until you get a new wardrobe.
You probably should check that you have good ground paths from engine to chassis, and chassis to battery. That would be wise no matter the situation.
You probably should check that you have good ground paths from engine to chassis, and chassis to battery. That would be wise no matter the situation.
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Re: I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
No joke, that really is the answer. It's just static electricity.
12V battery won't shock you. Your skin is a good enough insulator to prevent that. You can get burned from heat if you decide to thrust your hand into the middle of an active short circuit event, but that's about the only way you can get injured.
There is one device on the car though that runs around 40,000 Volts and it will pop the **** out of you. It's the ignition coil. But the chassis is battery ground so you can't get shocked by touching the chassis.
12V battery won't shock you. Your skin is a good enough insulator to prevent that. You can get burned from heat if you decide to thrust your hand into the middle of an active short circuit event, but that's about the only way you can get injured.
There is one device on the car though that runs around 40,000 Volts and it will pop the **** out of you. It's the ignition coil. But the chassis is battery ground so you can't get shocked by touching the chassis.
It takes about 60v before human skin becomes conductive. Less if you are sweaty as the salt/oil/moisture will increase conductivity. The only thing generating that kind of voltage is the ignition coil and that will find the nearest ground so wire to block, chassis, or hopefully coil to plug.
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Thats where I was going with my response.
It takes about 60v before human skin becomes conductive. Less if you are sweaty as the salt/oil/moisture will increase conductivity. The only thing generating that kind of voltage is the ignition coil and that will find the nearest ground so wire to block, chassis, or hopefully coil to plug.
It takes about 60v before human skin becomes conductive. Less if you are sweaty as the salt/oil/moisture will increase conductivity. The only thing generating that kind of voltage is the ignition coil and that will find the nearest ground so wire to block, chassis, or hopefully coil to plug.
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Re: I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
Starter motor. This will be a large cable to handle the huge current draw of the starter.
Engine block ---> Battery (-) terminal
--OR--
Engine block ---> chassis ---> battery (-) terminal
Alternator. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Engine electrical. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Vehicle chassis electrical. All this stuff is connected to the vehicle body somewhere on the car, so you need to finish the circuit back to battery with a 8 AWG wire, or whatever is appropriate for your electrical loads.
Chassis ---> Battery (-) terminal
You can see it's a more simple wire layout to just run cable from engine block to chassis and then to battery because you're going to need a path between chassis and battery anyway.
On my own car I ran engine ground directly back to battery (-) terminal because it's better from an electrical standpoint. I also ran a separate 6 AWG wire to chassis for the rest of the vehicle electrical system. It was expensive, more complex, and used more cables.
Engine block ---> Battery (-) terminal
--OR--
Engine block ---> chassis ---> battery (-) terminal
Alternator. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Engine electrical. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Vehicle chassis electrical. All this stuff is connected to the vehicle body somewhere on the car, so you need to finish the circuit back to battery with a 8 AWG wire, or whatever is appropriate for your electrical loads.
Chassis ---> Battery (-) terminal
You can see it's a more simple wire layout to just run cable from engine block to chassis and then to battery because you're going to need a path between chassis and battery anyway.
On my own car I ran engine ground directly back to battery (-) terminal because it's better from an electrical standpoint. I also ran a separate 6 AWG wire to chassis for the rest of the vehicle electrical system. It was expensive, more complex, and used more cables.
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Re: I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
Starter motor. This will be a large cable to handle the huge current draw of the starter.
Engine block ---> Battery (-) terminal
--OR--
Engine block ---> chassis ---> battery (-) terminal
Alternator. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Engine electrical. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Vehicle chassis electrical. All this stuff is connected to the vehicle body somewhere on the car, so you need to finish the circuit back to battery with a 8 AWG wire, or whatever is appropriate for your electrical loads.
Chassis ---> Battery (-) terminal
You can see it's a more simple wire layout to just run cable from engine block to chassis and then to battery because you're going to need a path between chassis and battery anyway.
On my own car I ran engine ground directly back to battery (-) terminal because it's better from an electrical standpoint. I also ran a separate 6 AWG wire to chassis for the rest of the vehicle electrical system. It was expensive, more complex, and used more cables.
Engine block ---> Battery (-) terminal
--OR--
Engine block ---> chassis ---> battery (-) terminal
Alternator. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Engine electrical. Will use the same ground cables that you laid for starter motor.
Vehicle chassis electrical. All this stuff is connected to the vehicle body somewhere on the car, so you need to finish the circuit back to battery with a 8 AWG wire, or whatever is appropriate for your electrical loads.
Chassis ---> Battery (-) terminal
You can see it's a more simple wire layout to just run cable from engine block to chassis and then to battery because you're going to need a path between chassis and battery anyway.
On my own car I ran engine ground directly back to battery (-) terminal because it's better from an electrical standpoint. I also ran a separate 6 AWG wire to chassis for the rest of the vehicle electrical system. It was expensive, more complex, and used more cables.
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Re: I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
These are unibody cars with seams and sealers and tiny little stitch welds, so whatever I say somebody else is going to jump in and say something different. LOL!
I just did whatever is convenient and landed on the subframe rail in the engine bay close to battery. Don't rely on bolt threads for the connection. The bolt is just there to clamp down the wire ring terminal. The connection should be between the flats of the ring terminal and bare metal on the car. Whenever you run a wire anywhere put the copper to the metal. Shoot a little paint on it after assembly if you're worried about rust forming.
I just did whatever is convenient and landed on the subframe rail in the engine bay close to battery. Don't rely on bolt threads for the connection. The bolt is just there to clamp down the wire ring terminal. The connection should be between the flats of the ring terminal and bare metal on the car. Whenever you run a wire anywhere put the copper to the metal. Shoot a little paint on it after assembly if you're worried about rust forming.
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Re: I keep getting shocked off my car?!?!? Help
These are unibody cars with seams and sealers and tiny little stitch welds, so whatever I say somebody else is going to jump in and say something different. LOL!
I just did whatever is convenient and landed on the subframe rail in the engine bay close to battery. Don't rely on bolt threads for the connection. The bolt is just there to clamp down the wire ring terminal. The connection should be between the flats of the ring terminal and bare metal on the car. Whenever you run a wire anywhere put the copper to the metal. Shoot a little paint on it after assembly if you're worried about rust forming.
I just did whatever is convenient and landed on the subframe rail in the engine bay close to battery. Don't rely on bolt threads for the connection. The bolt is just there to clamp down the wire ring terminal. The connection should be between the flats of the ring terminal and bare metal on the car. Whenever you run a wire anywhere put the copper to the metal. Shoot a little paint on it after assembly if you're worried about rust forming.
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Any place with an unused threaded hole. Raised bosses work really well if you've got one.
I have an LS engine so different choices than you. I attached mine to the side of the cylinder head because it was convenient. Notice that convenience kind of rules a lot of my decisions?
I have an LS engine so different choices than you. I attached mine to the side of the cylinder head because it was convenient. Notice that convenience kind of rules a lot of my decisions?
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