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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Smaller 350 starter??

Well, I bought a 85 Truck starter today for my new 350 as my old motor had the 153 flywheel. I now have the 168 one. anyways. The starter is too big. It took me like 30 mins just to get it past my Y-pipe and lined up. But the collector is in the way of the selinod so I can't bolt the thing up. Is there a smaller one I can use? Like is the corvette one smaller(and use a 168 flywheel?)? I don't want to have to pull the trans and swap flywheels. Also keep in mind this car is a daily driver so a mini starter or other types of racing starters prob won't be a good idea....
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 05:07 PM
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gmpp has mini starter as well as jegs and a lot of other sources
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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I Don't want to pay $200+ for a mini starter....I want something I can buy from like auto zone and cosy about $60....
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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you have to buy a different starter when you swap form a 305 to 350???
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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How did you get a 168 tooth flywheel inside the stock tranny bellhousing?

You can research starters and find one that uses a different solenoid position to give you enough room. Or you can use a remote mount solenoid. Considering the proximity of the exhaust to your solenoid you would be wise to use a remote solenoid anyway. The heat from the exhaust will heat the solenoid coils and cause hard starts in the summer. Eventually the insulation on the coils will break down and the solenoid will fail. Be sure to use large wires so the voltage drop doesn't cause the solenoid to lock and not disengage.

Mini starters are gear reduction starters and put out more torque than the direct drive starter like you have now. They are lighter, more powerful, and draw less current from the battery.
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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the 168 flywheel went right in....

you only have to change the starter if you change the flywheel to a different size, which I did.

I'm at the point where I just might rip out the trans, order me a 153 flywheel, and put that in.....

and drop a stall in the car as the same time
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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i used a lt1 starter which worked well for me. but it sure wasn't 60 dollars.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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i got a mini hi torque starter for 100dollars...it is like night and day compared to the stock starter...i barely bump it and it turns right over.
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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where did you get it for $100....????
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Old Mar 24, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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Year One has a high torque mini-starter for $149....part# pm30
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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Originally posted by beamar
where did you get it for $100....????
My dads got a hook up on starters and altenators, I prob should have mentioned that
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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I have had a CSI mini starter for almost 2 years now and I have had no trouble. Like someone said earlier, the thing cranks like lightning. Also I have LTs and I don't think a standard starter would work well or at all!!
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 11:35 PM
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lol, you guys are crazy...

How would a standard starter not work well or at all???

The starter was made for that car...........

anyways I called a local starter place and just got a message today saying something like he found one that would work for me...So I'll call them back tomorrow. If they want too much for it. I'm just gonan cut the selinod off and relocate it.
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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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How would a standard starter not work well or at all???

The starter was made for that car...........
They are made to fit the car with stock equipment. Long tube headers change all the rules.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by QwkTrip
They are made to fit the car with stock equipment. Long tube headers change all the rules.



their shorties anyways....
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by 92 zzz28
Also I have LTs...
Long tubes. I thought you were commenting about his setup.

Originally posted by beamar
If they want too much for it. I'm just gonan cut the selinod off and relocate it.
By the way... Nice idea. Where did you get it from?

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by QwkTrip
Long tubes. I thought you were commenting about his setup.



By the way... Nice idea. Where did you get it from?
I thought about it before...But Just don't want to go throught the mess of doing it all. I know if I do it, it's gonna cause prob. I have a feeling the starter not going to like a 3-4 foot wire between it and the selinod.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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All that matters is the resitance of the wiring. Use large diameter wire and it will work fine. I think there are kits in Summit Racing and the like for relocation of the solenoid.

Good luck!
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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I just picked up a mini. Cost $109 out the door. Bolted right up and works great.
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