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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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year?

i have searching the site for a while and i have come up with a few questions to help me out a little.

i don't have a f-body yet(always wanted a 3rd gen but when ever i go for another car i buy something other than a f-body, but now i have the money and i am no doubt buying a 3rd gen)

my plans were to swap a lt1 sometime with it(when i have the money again) i am planning on buying a 87-90 iroc or 91-92 z28.

my question is: what year 3rd gen would be the best for a lt1 swap? i really want the VATS (cause i known a few guys who cars have been stolen and i don't really want to be one of them, so i guess i have to get a 89(i think the starting year for pass key)-92)

also i want a lt1/t56(preferably from a corvette for the 4 bolt, but will settle with 2 bolt if i have too)

so what year(s) Y/F body would be best to find the engine from?

also just a side question. i read on this site that 93-94 camaro lt1's were speed density. my dad had a 94 z28 and it had a MAF sensor, what's up with that?
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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'93 LT1's were speed density and 94 thru 97 were MAF. The 94 and 95 LT1's were OBDI and had the largest cams offered for the tenure of that motor. OBDI is also prefered in terms of tuning. 96 and 97 motors were OBDII and had slightly smaller cams. There is nothing wrong with a 2 bolt main LT1. Too many people get obsessed with such a minute detail.

Basically any LT1 that you go with will be fine. You can convert OBDII to OBDI or use another form of an aftermarket controller.

As for what 3rd gen to put it in? You can't go wrong with any year. I would choose a car that is already a 5spd so that your T56 fab work will be minimized. No matter what car you pick you will have to upgrade the exhaust and modify/upgrade the fuel sysem and wiring. As long as you have the shell you are in good shape.

Check out the stickies devoted to LT1 swaps at the top of the page to help you visualize all that is involved with this swap.

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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Thank you for the welcome.

I don’t care if its 2 bolt, I’m almost 19yo and I don’t have great mechanical skills, mostly everything I have learned I have read or picked up online, so I’m not looking to mod the snot out of the lt1, or make a car that need tons of expert skills to keep it working. I’m mainly just looking for something unique, nice, with some power to play with and a few gears to fly thru.

I have another question, I know has been covered a few times but I’m still have a few questions about cause I’m still a little unclear to an answer. The AC, I don’t want AC so I know I need a dummy pulley, but will I still have to mod anything to make room for the pulley?

also: a lt1/t56 vette does NOT have a hydraulic clutch. correct?

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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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All of the T56 have a hydraulic clutches in them except for the ones used in the 03/04 Cobra's but to put a T56 in an F-body, it's best to use the hydraulic one. As for VATS, if you want it 89-92 Firebird/Trans Am and if I'm not mistaken 90-92 Camaro/Z28's had the VATS. As for no A/C they make an AC delete pully you can use to keep the stock length belt on the car. You will end up paying a bit more for the 'vette motor than you will for an F-body or Impala LT1.

Biggest thing make sure you get the wiring and PCM with the engine.

Another tip (to make less of a headache) when you buy a car get a TPI car which has a pump that will handle the LT1.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Your best choice for a camaro is going to be a 90-92 6 cylinder RS with an auto.

Anything beyond that your going out of your way for more of a headache.

Get the pullout from an f body, less differences with the install.

A/C delete idler doesnt require any clearancing.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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i think i have changed my mind for the time being. now i'm just thinking of doing a lt1 with auto(for now) i have never swapped a manual and don't rally feel comfortable doing a manual transmission swap, and clutch work, right for at least.
so if i am going auto would it be best to stay 700r4 or upgrade to 4l60-e?
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by A_T_F_B
i think i have changed my mind for the time being. now i'm just thinking of doing a lt1 with auto(for now) i have never swapped a manual and don't rally feel comfortable doing a manual transmission swap, and clutch work, right for at least.
so if i am going auto would it be best to stay 700r4 or upgrade to 4l60-e?
Get a complet LT1 / 4L60E pullout it will keep things easier, and like i said getting a 90-92 6 cyl car is still the best choice.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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With the V6 he will have to drop the tank and put a bigger fuel pump in the car, which is a total pain, I still suggest a TPI car as to eliminate one thing that has to be done.

Get a Pontiac, not a bowtie, the Firebirds look cooler. Plus, it's not a Chevrolet
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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i want a TA, but just can't find one that has what i need(nice body, low price). i am trying to find something with the 305tpi at least, because i am going to be driving around with it till i get the money for the lt1/4t60e.
the third gens dont have the fuel tank "trap door." thats not cool
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by Klortho
With the V6 he will have to drop the tank and put a bigger fuel pump in the car, which is a total pain, I still suggest a TPI car as to eliminate one thing that has to be done.

Get a Pontiac, not a bowtie, the Firebirds look cooler. Plus, it's not a Chevrolet
The fuel pump is the same tpi and MPFI V6, so your wrong there, not to mention the pump is typically worn out anyway so he *should* be replacing it anyway, there are so many other benefits of going with a V6 car over a TBI one, and quite a few compared to a V8 one, especially the initial price of the car, but hey im sure you know more than me on this subject as i've only owned 5 thirdgens, 2 4th gens, done the LT1 swap in 5 thirdgens, and made a drop in LT1 swap wiring harness for another board member here......
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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I really hate smarta***es.

I have seen several threads that suggest swapping the pump from a V6 car out to a TPI car or bigger around 190LPH or high since they are different since if you have read the specs on the LT1 they say that the fuel pressure range 40-50psi. I even spoke to people who know the LT1 and LS1 inside and out and asked them about using the stock pump in my V6 car since it was new and they said not to since the injectors are way smaller than the ones in the LT1, the V6 are like 16lb injectors, so I asked them about using the old 155lph pump from my Mustang which had 19lb injectors and was told no, that it wouldn't be able to feed the injectors on the LT1 which stock are 24lb so I put a 255lph pump in to be safe. Even on the Mustang engines when you go from 19lb to 24lb they recommend putting a 190lph pump in to keep the fuel pressure up.

Plus with the V6 cars, you have to move front brake lines around on the crossmember so the motor mounts will fit, deal with swapping out modules on the tach so it will read right.

Plus, Camaros are still Chevrolets and the Firebirds still look better.

But, I guess you know way more than the people who deal with LT1s every day so I'll not argue with you on it

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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are there any good lt1 swap sites with pictures and lots of info? i have found a few but nohing really helpful... thanks
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