83 Firebird Help
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83 Firebird Help
I have a 1983 firebird s/e. Its not a trans am. I have a 2.8 v6 and its one of the worst motors made it has had 3 of them. I am currently looking for a new engine. i want to put a 350 small block in it. then i realized i could go with a 6 since i dont have loads of money to spend on gas. I have a chance to put a 4.3 liter v6 in there. someone told me that the t5 transmission will bolt up to it and that it should work out fine. the t5 came from the camaro i believe. Does anyone here know if that will work? or if a 350 will even drop in? or does anyone have any advice to what engine i should put in there. Im just looking for a reliable car that will run a long time, not a race car.
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Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
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Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
Re: 83 Firebird Help
4.3L is the v-8 pattern
90 degree
the 3.8 is the 60 degree like the 4 cylinder
you would need a v-8 bellhousing
and then a complete exhaust system
and so on
the s/e was more "plushy" than the t/a
i had an 84 one
i junked it
was also 3.8L and t-5
it had perfect mint tan interior but no one wanted any of it
you could buy a reliable complete car for less than what youre gonna put into it converting it to a 4.3 or v-8
youd even be better off buying a factory v-8 f body thats needing another v-8 or something else done to it to make it run and drive again
these days its just not worth spending all the extra $ when parts cars are getting hard to find and good runnning cheap cars are out there still
it takes alot more $ and effort and time to do this then ppl think or plan for,
ive bene doing it for years and i finally quit and wish i had alot sooner,
they go to the shredder now
good luck
90 degree
the 3.8 is the 60 degree like the 4 cylinder
you would need a v-8 bellhousing
and then a complete exhaust system
and so on
the s/e was more "plushy" than the t/a
i had an 84 one
i junked it
was also 3.8L and t-5
it had perfect mint tan interior but no one wanted any of it
you could buy a reliable complete car for less than what youre gonna put into it converting it to a 4.3 or v-8
youd even be better off buying a factory v-8 f body thats needing another v-8 or something else done to it to make it run and drive again
these days its just not worth spending all the extra $ when parts cars are getting hard to find and good runnning cheap cars are out there still
it takes alot more $ and effort and time to do this then ppl think or plan for,
ive bene doing it for years and i finally quit and wish i had alot sooner,
they go to the shredder now
good luck
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Car: 1983 Daytona Trans Am
Engine: LG4
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73
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Car: '91 Firebird Convertible
Engine: 305 TBI (LO3)
Transmission: 700r4, Vette Servo
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 Bolt, PBR disks
Re: 83 Firebird Help
Don't they call the 4.3 the chopped-off Small Block?
I liked that motor... in my Blazer. If you wanted something peppy and efficient, I'd recommend the 3800. That's yet another great motor. Higher RPM range maybe (guessing).
I liked that motor... in my Blazer. If you wanted something peppy and efficient, I'd recommend the 3800. That's yet another great motor. Higher RPM range maybe (guessing).
Re: 83 Firebird Help
This is more appropriate for the Engine swap section of this site, so I am moving it there.
However, my .02, go with a V-8 if you are going to go with a 4.3, same amount of work but the V-8 will have a lot more gains.
However, my .02, go with a V-8 if you are going to go with a 4.3, same amount of work but the V-8 will have a lot more gains.
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Car: 88 V6 'bird/89TBI bird/85 T/A
Engine: 2.8/TBI/TPI
Transmission: V8 T-5/700R4 x2
Axle/Gears: 3.42 open/2.73 open/ 3.27 9 bolt
Re: 83 Firebird Help
Your best bet, really, is a 3.4 V6 (this is a 60 degree, and from the same family as the 2.8) from a 4th gen f-body or you can still buy the 3.4HT replacement S-10 engine. All of your original 2.8 accessories, Intake, carb, distributor, etc, will bolt on with no mods. You just need the 3.4 flywheel with it. You will also need a universal low pressure electric fuel pump as the 3.4 has no provision for a mechanical pump.
There are some guys here who have done it with great results. I did an older carb 2.8 swap and used a 3.1 from my 90 firebird, also with outstanding results. If you use an 87 or newer 2.8/3.1/3.4 you can expect well over 200k miles and dead on reliability. I have done it and others have as well. Since you don't have an engine yet, the 3.4 is the biggest available that is a drop in replacement.
The 3.8/3800 Buick (GM Powertrain) engines require serious mods to install. The 4.3 will require everything that a V8 swap will require. Only the 2.8/3.1/3.4 rear wheel drive engines will swap in easily.
Hope this helps.
There are some guys here who have done it with great results. I did an older carb 2.8 swap and used a 3.1 from my 90 firebird, also with outstanding results. If you use an 87 or newer 2.8/3.1/3.4 you can expect well over 200k miles and dead on reliability. I have done it and others have as well. Since you don't have an engine yet, the 3.4 is the biggest available that is a drop in replacement.
The 3.8/3800 Buick (GM Powertrain) engines require serious mods to install. The 4.3 will require everything that a V8 swap will require. Only the 2.8/3.1/3.4 rear wheel drive engines will swap in easily.
Hope this helps.
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
I would go even farther and say the 4.3 swap is one of the hardest, as nothing is available for mounting it into the chassis.
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Car: 1984 Trans-Am WS6
Engine: WAS: 5.0HO, SOON: ZZ383-425HP.
Transmission: 700R4 with shift kit
Re: 83 Firebird Help
I like the 3800's, My 89 VN Commodore has one in it.
I hit 5,000RPM+ dayly and its pushing 330,000K (205,000mile) i give it a service every 4 months with oil designed for a turbo engine (better for higher heat/stres apps) and it runs smooth with no smoke but the 700R4 behind it is starting to fail.
The car only cost me $1,000 almost 2 years ago and the last owner used it as a burnout car (prob why the diff clunks) but other than the trans i havent had a problem with it.
They are deff a great engine, there are a fue other VN's around my area one has 410,987k on the original 3800 but the trans got a rebuild last year.
I hit 5,000RPM+ dayly and its pushing 330,000K (205,000mile) i give it a service every 4 months with oil designed for a turbo engine (better for higher heat/stres apps) and it runs smooth with no smoke but the 700R4 behind it is starting to fail.
The car only cost me $1,000 almost 2 years ago and the last owner used it as a burnout car (prob why the diff clunks) but other than the trans i havent had a problem with it.
They are deff a great engine, there are a fue other VN's around my area one has 410,987k on the original 3800 but the trans got a rebuild last year.
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