Yep that sounds like a good plan. What's the story on this engine and tranny? How might you get it for free?

 

Wow pg. 10

 

Lol page ten that's correct, hey check your pm box, ohh and the engine is a deal that's kinda complicated, I'll let you know after I do or do not get it, I need to keep my mouth shut for now.

 

Yeah I was thinking about that issue when I typed it. I'll watch the vid asap. I'm on an itouch and I can't watch it on here.

Any new updates on the car?

 

My only update is that I tried driling those metal peices that went on my hood and it looked shitty so plan B, I will make a frame and wrap it in chrome "mesh"

 

Ok so your making the hood functional. I was reading a thread about a new hood and many ppl, including 57kid (I think that's his name), said that the intake of the hood has to be at the front lip of the hood. It will probably still work, just not as effective.

 

That vid is so sweet. The guy just hammers the pylons at the start aha. I like the side by side action and it looks like the third gens hold the road way better than the fourth gens or mustangs

 

Deffinatly a sweet vid, I like the scene were the guy takes off to the right and passes like 4 cars with two wheels on grass and two on the coarse lol. I don't know about funtionality but I plan on making a custom fiberglass air collector that should have wether stripping to seal it to the hood.

 

Cool. So your making a scoop? then ducting it to the engine?

 

p.s Im finally going to get a chance to work on my car for the next few days because im going out to my dads house.

It should be finished for safety by the time I come back into town in 2-3 days. I updated my car domain also. Just the 4th page there.

 

Great! Looking forward to reading about your progess. I'm not going to duct it as much as have it flow straight into open space.

 

Sounds good. What kind of scoop are you going for? what's it gonna look like?

 

Alright so I bought an ignition module, and now I still don't have spark, however if I turn the engine over, turn the key completley off the engine spins almost backwards, and some gas blows back through the carb, and I get a spark somtimes on 1 cylinder if I do that, what the hell, it's sparking in the off position and not when in the on position, and yes I hooked the ignition module up coorectly, what's wrong?

 

It almost turns really hard in the oposite direction when I turn the key back to the off position

 

In other words it's backfiring

 

Think about how a coil works: Current flows through the primary windings, creating a magnetic field. The current is interrupted, the magnetic field collapses, creating a voltage in the secondary windings out the spark plug terminal out to the spark plug.

It would appear your coil primary windings are being energized, but the power isn't being interrupted ("triggered", by the distributor), to create the spark until the ignition is turned off.

 

I understand what you're saying as far as how a coil works, but what do I do to fix it? I'm kinda confused, and your help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, DacMan

 

Your distributor apparently isn't triggering the coil. If the module is known good, that suggests the pick-up isn't. Not all that uncommon with HEI's.

 

If you could bear with me here five7kid I'd appreciate it, I am not getting a drop in the ground when turning over the engine which I don't know what that suggests, but shouldn't there be a drop in the ground or somthing when the distributor points meet? My ground spade wasn't even present on my coil, possibly suggesting what? It doesn't need one or there was one that disentagrated? I'm super confused.

 

Alright here are the pics. They aren't very big since I forgot my camera at home for some reason

 

According to my chilton manual if I don't have 10 volts or more at my tach terminal then my ignition module is faulty, I have 9.10. I looked in the chilton and according to it If I have somwhere between 1 to 10 volts it needs to be replaced. And if I don't have spark then so does my coil. I did a bunch of test and this is where the troubleshooting "tree" led me. Any ideas?

 

Man that looks sweet, are you the guy in the blue shirt and jeans, or the shorts? those wheels are awsome, probably worth the guys asking price alone. I'm pumped for ya buddy.

 

Not sure what you mean by a drop in the ground.

Without a ground spade, the coil will search for a ground. Not a good thing. Do you have the ground spade now?

 

Yes and it's still not working with or without the spade.

 

**** this car, and eveything to do with it, I'm fresh out of patience! I'm done working on it for a while.

 

I'm actually not in the pictures lol. Anywho just calm down and walk away for away for a while before you beat the car all to hell

 

Hey Dac, aha looks like your havin some troubles. My advice is to go get a crappy distrib from a junkyard / wherever and put it in to see if that solves the problem. Even a crack in the distrib casing could cause it to fail.

p.s I got a lot of stuff done on my car. check it out on my cardomain

 

First of all congrats Mark it looks really great, (I was wondering were you were) you sure do get a lot done when you get the chance. Second of all sound advice Intrepid and Mark (BTW Intrepid, I noticed you change your user name, it will take me a while to get used to calling you that lol) I took today off and went hunting, got a squirrel, who I affectionately named Darrel (no I'm not a physco I'm just kidding), Anyway it felt good to kill something lol, and I am now ready to get back to work. Monday is my last day before I have to go back to school so I'll make the best of it, ohh and my parents figured out a way that I can keep my car at my house so a lot of pressure has been lifted.

 

Aha congrats on the squirrel. What did you use? .22?, pellet gun?

Anyway, yeah im going back out to my dads place on tuesday to finish the crap I started and hopefully repaint the fender and hood.

try and get that baby running tomorrow.

Heres a quick story for you about my time at my dads. So since my dad wasnt there for 3 weeks. There was no one plowing the driveway and the snow was almost 2 feet deep. But after knocking the snow down a bit with the quad, the snow was still about half a foot deep. Heres the amazing part. My car drove through this while going up an incline. It took about 20 passes to get all the way to the top but it made it. Heres whats even more crazy. My dads new jetta with traction control and snow tires couldnt make it up the drive way even after I packed it down with my camaro. I was pretty impressed.

 

That's because american engineering gets the job done! I used a 12 gauge on the squirrel, I shot him in the head too, not because I'm that good, but because it's all I could see.

 

Sweet my dad has a gun that can switch from a 12 guage to a 30-30.

 

Nice, I'll bet it's a Thompson. My dad has a marlin 30-30.

 

Yeah im not sure. It was my dads first gun when he was 10 and he got it taken away by his dad because he lost some bullets running through a field. It got circulated around the family and he finally got it back last season.

Anyway hows the car comin

 

Ummm not to great, but I am going to take my ignition module into my buddy at Napa and he's going to test it along with a new one. I think there's a slim chance the one I got was bad because it's not testing at the right voltage.

 

So we tested the new one I bought when my problems first arose and it didn't test out right, it tested bad twice and good once, and then the new one arrived that I ordered today and it tested good 3 times in a row. So I threw the new one on and it the engine doesn't seem to backfire anymore, but still no spark at all.

 

Crap man. Where is the ignition module on your car? I still recommend getting another distrib. Either find a junker to test or a nice one for an upgrade.

btw, I finished my car. I will be getting a safety and insurance once I get a job and save around 2000 Canadian (my parents are paying the other 1000) for insurance. The paint and body panels are not perfect but it will do until the summer. I also have more pics and stuff on my cardomain.

I hope you figure that crap out soon. Good luck

 

you said you had to "bead roll" the floor pans? How and what tools did you use for this.i welded in floor pans last year and didn't do this. I wish I would have it's looking real good!

 

Bead rolling is using a big stationary tool called a bead roller to make channels in sheet metal. Dac and I both got our floor pans bead rolled at a metal working company (different companies though). I got mine done for free and I believe dac paid around 20 dollars.

The bead roller is like a roller blade wheel that meshes into a channel that creates the groove in the metal. This groove provides strength and rigidity to the floor pan.

Sorry for taking that dac but I was online when he posted.

 

No worries mark, it's just like mark said.

Thanks for the compliment 88, DacMan

 

Ohh and mark good job, looks like your really close. I wish I was that close. Hows the exhaust sound now, with the high flowing cat? Any difference? I need to do just like you said, but it's not easy finding a third gen camaro around here in junk yards, and even hard to find one with 305, and practically impossible to find on that's got a 305 that hasn't beent torn apart by ghetto blasters lol. I don't know why, but I kinda forgot about five7kids comment on the pick-up, that's what I'm going to try to replace next. BTW here's a conversation I had on another camaro forum, just trying to get eveyone's opinion. http://camaroforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47912

 

Hmm. Yeah those guys in that forum are all saying the same things pretty much. I would go with your pickup coil idea. Then picking up a new distrib.

I hope your spark wires arent mixed up

 

Even if they are mixed I should still be getting spark right?

 

That is correct. I didnt think of that. Well there are only 4 or 5 things in the ignition system that are usually the problem.

Ignition module
Distributor
Pick up coil
Ignition coil
Maybe ignition switch (which probably isnt what your problem is)

Im thinking since you changed the module and ignition coil your left with the distrib and pick up. Ill search the forums for these parts for sale in your area.

 

Here is a distributor for $30 plus shipping

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...tbi-parts.html

Here is a brand new AC Delco pick up coil for 25 bucks plus shipping
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-ignition.html

MDS distrib 3 years old ut never used for $100
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...butor-sbc.html

There is lots of this stuff in the buy and sell section

 

Man that msd is sweet, but not hei I don't think. That pick up coil is super tempting, I'll find out how much they are new. Hey Five7Kid do you think that a pick-up coil is still my problem? Thanks a bunch mark for the prices I really appreciate it.

Thanks, DacMan

 

Likely, if you've eliminated everything else.

 

Well the pick up would be a good idea if it's cheaper than from a store

 

been reading your thread and as far as getting a distributor to see if that is the problem it does not have to be out of a camaro any 305 dist should work

 

Yeah I knew that, but didn't think of it. lol.


Thanks, DacMan

 

i agree trying a new pickup would be a smart idea