Wasap Everyone ... well after a year of messing with my truck, i've finally decided to sell it to fund a new project. My first car (first love!!) was the 89 Camaro I still have (yes im gonna sell it too!!) and since I've owned it, I've always wanted to build an insane 1992 z28. So in a few months my truck and my camaro will be sold and i'll have my 1992 ... and I plan to go all out. Im sick of those ppl in hondas with a motor swap and turbo's talking smack ... so I want to see what will happen when we apply this to a 3rd gen camaro. Im not even getting into the turbo part yet ... but I wanted to know what everyone thought about swapping a LS1 into a 1992 Camaro z28. I plan to buy the engine new from GM (Crate) with the computer and harness. Do you guys think this swap will be a pain in the *** ?? The tranny will be a T56 (undecided on new or used...) and the interior will consist of mostly 4th gen parts (dash from ls1 camaro, 6spd console from ls1 camaro).

I plan on getting the 92 within 3 months and will order the parts the next month ... so should be starting this swap sometime before august. hopefully I can get it done before my birthday (the 7th). Ok, thanks for any input you guys have!!!!

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--- Currently ---
Maroon 1989 Camaro RS
Crappy 305 TBI / Auto
Hypertech Stage 2 Chip (and 160/ThermoStat)
2.5" Pipes, No Cat, Flowmasters (Dual)
GT Grant Wheel, 5% Tint all around
selling soon ...

--- Next Project ---
1992 Camaro z28
4th gen Dash/6spdConsole, Tweeded Interior
TurboCharged LS1 w/ T56
Full Suspension, 17in Cobra R Wheels
LOTS of bodymods

 

First:

Click the search button. Subject is beat to death.

Second:

Yea, its a real PITA. Its a non-bolt in process right from the start, nothing works out easy.

Third:

Plan on some serious cash spending if you do take this on.

Fourth:

Whatever you do, dont use that trans. Go read about all the problems guys are having with those and you will run to the auto trans and hug it like there was no tomorrow.

 

sorry ... went thu the archives and didnt see nething bout it .. i'll try the search. thanks.

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--- Currently ---
Maroon 1989 Camaro RS
Crappy 305 TBI / Auto
Hypertech Stage 2 Chip (and 160/ThermoStat)
2.5" Pipes, No Cat, Flowmasters (Dual)
GT Grant Wheel, 5% Tint all around
selling soon ...

--- Next Project ---
1992 Camaro z28
4th gen Dash/6spdConsole, Tweeded Interior
TurboCharged LS1 w/ T56
Full Suspension, 17in Cobra R Wheels
LOTS of bodymods

 

Should be there in the archives, there are 2 websites floating around that people have done this swap. If you cant find them, repost and Ill find the links and post them here.

 

Whats wrong with the T56?

 

well speaking of this topic i own a thirdgen and 2001 camaro SS. I havent had any problems with 6 speed yet but it also only has 1000miles on it As long as you dont beat the hell out of the tranny it should be fine. But if you have the money get the richmond six speed you can get different gear ratios too. As far as putting an ls1 in a thirdgen i saw a post a while back about that. I would search the posts like the previous post said.

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91 RS' TBI 305
mods:
dynomax exhaust, lakewood control arms, gutted cat, pioneer deck, tbi spacer, jet stage 2 chip, K&N four inch element and open element, accel cap and rotor, moroso plug wires, msd blaster coil, bosche +4 spark plugs. Alot more mods to come!!(update 11/01/00 pulled engine
visit my page http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/8410

2001 camaro SS LS1 onyx black, SLP dual/dual center exhaust which brings horsepower to 335hp and 350ftlbs of torque, T-tops, 6 speed, Hurst shifter, cags!, mti lid and K&N and popped screen out of maf, power everything

 

It's not the tranny, it's the ****ing lame *** LS1 clutch design. I have one, I HATE my clutch. AFAIK, there is NO good aftermarket clutch solution out there as of yet.



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"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master"

'84 Black Camaro ZZ4 M5 (V-6 in a former life) -- street beast
'91 Medium Blue Metallic Z28 A4 (UB-HSTRY's old ride) -- currently broken
'99 Navy Blue Metallic Firehawk #120 M6 (99.44% stock) -- daily driver

 

I saw a link in here to someone's website who actually did it. It was a yellow IROC. I can't find it, anybody else know where it is.

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'88 IROC TPI 355, '69 truck 4-bolt, fully balanced, 9.75:1 compression, fully ported '70 truck heads(for now), Harland Sharp 1.6 Roller Rockers, Comp Cams CS 252AH-12, ported '86 TPI converted to speed density, Crane AFPR, Flowmaster 3in. exhaust, Edelbrock TES headers, all emissions equipment is still intact, plan on burning my own chips, many more mods and parts on the way as time and money permits =(
Best E.T. with TBI 305: 16.11 @ 82mph
Haven't been to track with new motor
If you have any questions on converting from TBI to TPI email me at jdkchevy70@yahoo.com
In memory of Dale Earnhardt, I'll miss cheering for that black #3 on raceday!!!

 

Here it is bro!! http://bradkiel.fbody.com/

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'88 IROC TPI 355, '69 truck 4-bolt, fully balanced, 9.75:1 compression, fully ported '70 truck heads(for now), Harland Sharp 1.6 Roller Rockers, Comp Cams CS 252AH-12, ported '86 TPI converted to speed density, Crane AFPR, Flowmaster 3in. exhaust, Edelbrock TES headers, all emissions equipment is still intact, plan on burning my own chips, many more mods and parts on the way as time and money permits =(
Best E.T. with TBI 305: 16.11 @ 82mph
Haven't been to track with new motor
If you have any questions on converting from TBI to TPI email me at jdkchevy70@yahoo.com
In memory of Dale Earnhardt, I'll miss cheering for that black #3 on raceday!!!

 

You could also try www.tunedport.com they sell the LS1 and LS6 motors for street rod setups so the swap might be a little easier. Here is a link directly to the LS6 here

Jeff

[This message has been edited by NavyVette (edited April 11, 2001).]

 

The 6-speeds do suck. I just blew 2nd gear out and this will be the 2nd tranny rebuild. The car has 28K miles and tons of problems. The Clutches BLOW, thats the reason I lost second. It was hot and I was powershifting and when I pushed the clucth the slave decided it didnt wanna do its job and pulled right through the syncros in 2nd gear.

Turbo Cars and Autos from now on for me. This N/A V8 stuff is for the birds.

Why not just buy an 89 TTA instead of spending all that money? I admit it would be cool but a tremdous cash outlay.

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Mike
1989 Turbo Trans-Am
11.25@121.25
Daily Driver

1998 Trans-Am LS1 6 Speed
13.10@106
Slow POS sitting in the Driveway awaiting repairs and then its For Sale. No More V8 Cars for me.

 

hehehehe ... well it sounded like a good idea at first but it looks like its gonna cost ALOT to do that swap, its gonna take ALOT of time, and it might be a pain in the butt to fix it if anything goes wrong after the swap ... so I just decided I want to build up the L98 and try to turbocharge it instead!! should be alot more fun and it prolly wont cost as much in the end ... plus it will leave a little money left over for me to play around with my 89 RS. thanks for all the info guys and sorry for bringing up an old topic thats been beat to death. heheh

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--- Currently ---
Maroon 1989 Camaro RS
Crappy 305 TBI / Auto
Hypertech Stage 2 Chip (and 160/ThermoStat)
2.5" Pipes, No Cat, Flowmasters (Dual)
GT Grant Wheel

Planned: Shaved keyholes, antenna
British Racing Green w/ White Racing Stripes
17" Powdercoat White Wheels, New Tint

--- Next Project ---
1992 Camaro z28
K1 Interior Kit, Sparco Seats, Tweeded Interior
TurboCharged L98 w/ T56
Full Suspension, Brake Upgrades, Y2K Vette Wheels (polished)
LOTS of bodymods and PPG Porsche Pearl Blue paintjob

 

did you ever go through with this???

 

haha, no wonder I was confused when I first started reading the replies

someone's been searching eh?

 

Thats why I sold mine, got tired of changing clutches. And when they did work, they didnt grab for ****. F'ing LS1....

 

This post brings back memories, GM was still making Camaros and Firebirds. Ahh.... The good old days.

 

Hey crazy...do you happen to have pics of your maroon car posted anywhere? Thanks!

 

was looking up race seats.... came across this and since it was so old and one of his first posts i thought he'd get a kick out of it.

times change and so do projects..

 

Exedy is emerging as a serious contender in the LS1 clutch space...both their single-disc and dual piece are holding up very well. Expensive, but nearly bulletproof.

Hit corvetteforum.com or ls1tech.com and search the applicable forum(s) on Exedy, you'll see what I mean.

 

notice that this was posted nearly 4 years ago.....

 

I'm pretty sure he was posting for general information

 

HAHA,...yeah, I pay attention.

 

Ok, I did the swap this summer. I'm 20 yrs old and never even done a swap and 2 of my friends who are into imports helped me. It didn't cost a lot and it took us 2 months to do the swap to my picky specifications. This included swapping the 99 tank in, bulding custom gauge cluster, and the buttload of wiring. Also, I spent about 2 weeks messing with what kind of fuel system I was going to run.

 

badass man. got any pics?

 

times change and so do projects..

Ain't that the truth!

 

http://www.cardomain.com/id/ctrw83z28

and check http://bis.midco.net/integra/Ternes for my pre-posi burnouts.

 

nice job on the swap. how much did you put down on the dyno? (I just scanned your page, didn't see if you posted it anywhere on there )

definitely like the guage cluster

 

I didn't post it there because I was upset with my numbers lol. Its running really rich but it did put up 277HP and 307 ft/lbs. I've changed the exhaust since then and I will be going back to Minot soon to fix the tuning issue. I'll be sure to post then.

 

are those corrected numbers? whats the altitude in Minot? That will play big part in the numbers you put down. but yeah, running rich will definitely affect them too.

 

If you guys are looking for a "stronger" 6 speed, theres a shop here in connecticut (http://www.eastsideperformance.net/pages/1/index.htm) that sells beefed up 6 spds.

 

those numbers are not corrected, and i have no clue what our altitude is around here lol.

 

I dont know why you guys are having problems with your 6-speeds guys on ls1tech.com are putting 500hp+ through them with no problems. For the clutch problem try the spec sage 3i it seems to be holding really well for the 4th gen guys. Also take a look at the 6.0 iron version of the ls1. They put them in a lot of trucks, same as the ls1 but bigger bore and its iron. Weighs 65 lbs. more and you can pick them up for abotu 1500-2000. Pm me if you want any more info on them.

 

Is yours a pre 00 LS1? That being with an automatic explains the low nymbers. Still impressive though..

 

Its a 99. My friends 2000 Z-28 w/6speed put 311 ft/lbs down so with some tuning I should be all over that thing.

 

can i use my 5 speed tranny with a ls1?

 

No.

 

It would probably be better to go for a different crate engine. Nowadays you can get a lot more power for your buck with different crate engines, and they will be easier to install.

 

I don't even think it'll bolt up. Even if it did, the Torque of the LS1 would destroy it in no time..