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Big block is finally back in and weighed!

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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 09:25 PM
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Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
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Big block is finally back in and weighed!

After dropping a valve and doing much damage back on May 6, the engine is finally back in the car and running.

I won't know just how good it's going to be until tomorrow when I go racing again.

I was finally able to weigh the car today with the big block to see how much heavier it is.

Race ready, 1/2 tank of fuel, with driver..

383 small block was 3045 pounds total weight
Big block is 3220. 1875 on the front axle and 1345 on the rear.

Since adding the big block, the battery has also been relocated to the rear to help with weight distribution.

Now that I have an actual weight, my HP estimates (below) have been corrected. I have more than I expected since the car is heavier than I guessed.

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Best ET on a time slip: 11.242 altitude corrected to 10.89
Best MPH on a time slip: 121.52 altitude corrected to 125.89
Altitude corrected rear wheel HP: 497.9
Best 60 foot: 1.546

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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 11:36 PM
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Let us know how it runs
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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 06:18 PM
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Poorly then badly. First 2 time trial passes were poor. The engine wouldn't pull over 6000 rpm. While driving back up the return road, the right exhaust sounded like it had a miss. When I got back to the pits I pulled all the plugs. #2 was wet so I figured it wasn't firing. I installed a new plug then fired up the engine to listen to it. I reved it up once and at about 6000 rpm there was a loud bang and the engine died. Everyone around me was also wondering what the noise was. I pulled the right rocker and the #2 intake rocker was off. I checked to make sure the lifter was still in the bore, checked the pushrod for straightness and reinstalled the rocker. It's possible I may have forgotten to tighten it down during the rebuild but I don't think so. I cranked the engine over and it din't sound very good. Pulled the dipstick and the crankcase is full of antifreeze. OK, my day was done before the first round.

The engine is now out and is stripped down to a short block sitting on the engine stand. Same damage as last time but on a different cylinder.

Broke a head beyond repair, punched a hole through the top of #7 piston, 2 large cracks in #7 cylinder walls (might be able to sleeve it).

I haven't pulled the pan off yet to see if #7 con rod is bent but I'm assuming it is.

Looks like if I want to keep racing this season, I'll have to go back racing the truck in Sportsman ET again.

Since I need about another $1500 to rebuild this one again, I'm leaning to "buying" a new engine now but not in the near future.

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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 09:49 PM
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That's terrible! I'm sorry to hear you had such misfortune.
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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 10:26 PM
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
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I suppose the good side is that I'm a shoe in for hard luck award again this year.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 01:43 AM
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Twice in a row is kind of suspicous don't you think? Could it be in the parts?

I don't think I'd be trusting those valves very much, might consider replacing them all just in case. Call it cheap insurance
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 08:23 PM
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I'm working on a car name now that the car has a personality.

Big Bang Theory, but it's not a theory any more

A play on words as I'm not sure what will be allowed by NHRA.

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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 09:52 PM
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Wow that sucks Sorry man.. It always sucks to see someone break expensive stuff...



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Old Jun 19, 2001 | 12:54 AM
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ouch.
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 01:02 AM
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Why rev a big block to 600rpm with no load on it?
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Old Jun 21, 2001 | 10:11 PM
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Bending a con rod. Neat trick! I thought they usually broke. You're totally right about the hard luck award. Kind of disheartening seeing a guy try to go fast on a budget, and end up with that kind of luck. EVEN if he is from Calgary.

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Old Jun 23, 2001 | 10:28 AM
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