366 or 363 big block??????
366 or 363 big block??????
i have a chance to buy a pair of big block chevy motors.they both came out of big honkin dump trucks from the early 70's.guy says they are 366 or 363(hes hard to understand).I was also told by 2 other people that these use the same heads(yes they have the big pipe plug on the back of each head)and crank as a 427.Is this true?im also told its easy to make a stroker??????
beats me i always thought a 396 was the smallest big block...anyways
think i should stuff a built one of those(bored to 427 or 454) into my 86 z?prolly break the windshield cuz of all the torque lol
oh and the casting numbers are
634779 on one and 473478 on the other
ok anybody with info thanks a ton!!!!
mike
[This message has been edited by mikeage2 (edited November 25, 2001).]
beats me i always thought a 396 was the smallest big block...anyways
think i should stuff a built one of those(bored to 427 or 454) into my 86 z?prolly break the windshield cuz of all the torque lol
oh and the casting numbers are
634779 on one and 473478 on the other
ok anybody with info thanks a ton!!!!
mike
[This message has been edited by mikeage2 (edited November 25, 2001).]
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366's are truck engines, they are in the fleet trucks where i work. they are high tourqe very low RPM engines. i dont think the cranks are the same as a 427, however i do know a 396 has the same crank as a 427(if you ever buy one, ask for the 396 cause some places charge more for the 427)thats all i can help with lil jay
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Jay is right... the 366 is a common big block motor in gas-burner trucks. 363 isn't any number that comes in anything stock, big block or small block, any mfr that I know of (not that I know everything that has ever been made).
Crank is the same as a truck 427, yerbasic cast crap. It's not the same as a high-perf 427 crank from something like a late 60s muscle car. It's the same stroke but the similarity ends there.
The block won't bore out to a 427, or even a 396. The bore is WWWWAAAAYYYYY too small for that. The 366, 396, & 427 all have the same stroke (3.75"). Nobody cares what the head casting numbers are, they're truck heads. Complete garbage.
It is a tall block, which is one of those double-edged swords. That means that it has room to be stroked, but it also means that it's about .400" per side harder to fit in one of our cars.
If it were mw, even if I already had a bog-block car and needed a motor and could get one of those for free (I do have such a car BTW, not my Camaro) I'd pass and already have.
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Crank is the same as a truck 427, yerbasic cast crap. It's not the same as a high-perf 427 crank from something like a late 60s muscle car. It's the same stroke but the similarity ends there.
The block won't bore out to a 427, or even a 396. The bore is WWWWAAAAYYYYY too small for that. The 366, 396, & 427 all have the same stroke (3.75"). Nobody cares what the head casting numbers are, they're truck heads. Complete garbage.
It is a tall block, which is one of those double-edged swords. That means that it has room to be stroked, but it also means that it's about .400" per side harder to fit in one of our cars.
If it were mw, even if I already had a bog-block car and needed a motor and could get one of those for free (I do have such a car BTW, not my Camaro) I'd pass and already have.
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well dammit dammit dammit
i thought i finally found something.shiaat
now what am i going to do.i thought my motor quest was over.Iv ehad nothing but bad luck with small blocks then these came up and i thought i had something.********* .anybody know whare theyre are bolt-ons cheap to make a early 70's 350 kick *** ?i mean cheap...im poor and just bougth a house man.this sucks...
thanks for the info an danybody elses 2 cents would be great too
mikey
i thought i finally found something.shiaat
now what am i going to do.i thought my motor quest was over.Iv ehad nothing but bad luck with small blocks then these came up and i thought i had something.********* .anybody know whare theyre are bolt-ons cheap to make a early 70's 350 kick *** ?i mean cheap...im poor and just bougth a house man.this sucks...
thanks for the info an danybody elses 2 cents would be great too
mikey
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No, it doesn't. The heads are made for low rpm torque and to last a long time. Not performance parts by any stretch of the imagination.
You'll get a lot more power out of a 350, less weight, less hassle, etc., etc., etc.
Save the 366's for hauling dirt.
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You'll get a lot more power out of a 350, less weight, less hassle, etc., etc., etc.
Save the 366's for hauling dirt.
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well you guys must not have a handy book like my dad does for crossing numbers.Yes one is a 366...the other is a 427!!!!!!!!!!
im sure those heads suck,so no bigie.the 427 is the most promising motor out of the two anyways...you think it would be worth thew effort to build that up and stuck her in my camaro...i know it will take some creative firewall and trans hump mods,reinforcement of the sub frames and a cage to hold the car togther,but im ready to do it if i can make something out of that 427
im sure those heads suck,so no bigie.the 427 is the most promising motor out of the two anyways...you think it would be worth thew effort to build that up and stuck her in my camaro...i know it will take some creative firewall and trans hump mods,reinforcement of the sub frames and a cage to hold the car togther,but im ready to do it if i can make something out of that 427
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Even though it's a 427 it could still be a truck engine. Look at the casting # book again, if it's a truck engine the above still applies. There are two 427's the normal one and the truck version, the blocks are not interchangable.
racers say they prefer the 425 tall block(truck)
the .400 extxa leaves room to put a 4.25"stroke crank in,and that bored to .125 over makes a 490 or some krap...that would rock
i do not pnal on stuffing ti in a thirdgen anymore...too much power lol
the .400 extxa leaves room to put a 4.25"stroke crank in,and that bored to .125 over makes a 490 or some krap...that would rock
i do not pnal on stuffing ti in a thirdgen anymore...too much power lol
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