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305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

hey guys i have a silly question....

I went to A 350 carb from a 305 tpi...i took out the ecu and harness, but the tranny kick down was hooked up in the front of the engine before, now the carb is alot closer to fire wall.

My question is does anyone know what tranny kick down to use, i hooked mine up as is, but i have to pump the gas to get it to kick down because its way to long....


so do i just take this one out put a shorter one in? i have NO idea how to adjust one...please let me know what one to purchase.


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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

Originally Posted by defaria27
i hooked mine up as is, but i have to pump the gas to get it to kick down because its way to long....
Cable length has nothing to do with it,
You must have the correct leverage in relation to the % throttle opening ( as the stock TB did ) otherwise you will burn up the trans

Need a TV corrector cable to suit your carb to get the leverage right

http://www.summitracing.com/search/T...d=tv+corrector

and most likely a custom or homemade bracket for the TV cable outer

There are aftermarket brackets for carbs that have both accel and TV cable mounts

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS+Performan...15150/10002/-1
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...15229/10002/-1

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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

I've always read of everyone swapping out for a TBI or carbed cable rather than the TPI cable because of it's length and it being hard to deal with. If it were me, I'd swap for a TBI cable - my car was TBI and my stock cable worked great.
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

ok i cant find on summit a kick down cable for TBI, but i found some " universal ones" i think, but how do i measure lenght. i was looking to just buy one and put it in? i guess theres some adjusting to do?
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

Get one from an autozone for either a carb'd third gen or TBI one.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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Not likely to find it at Zoned Auto, although they may be able to order it from the dealer.

As stated, carb'd or TBI will work. I have a used carb'd one I'm not going to need if you're interested.
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

Call TCI - find out the length of theirs:

http://www.compperformancegroupstore...lesAccessories

Or dealer.

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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

Originally Posted by five7kid
Not likely to find it at Zoned Auto, although they may be able to order it from the dealer.

As stated, carb'd or TBI will work. I have a used carb'd one I'm not going to need if you're interested.
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...mString=search

None of these will work?
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Old Mar 16, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bradley23150
Wow. Good find. Learn something new every day. Didn't know Pioneer was making them.

By the way, it's a "throttle valve" cable, not "kick down" or "detent".
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 03:10 AM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

Originally Posted by five7kid
Wow. Good find. Learn something new every day. Didn't know Pioneer was making them.

By the way, it's a "throttle valve" cable, not "kick down" or "detent".

IN NEED OF MORE INFO !
hello
ok so i am taking off my tpi and going to a carb,,,,i have a 350 with a 700r4,, 1986 motor and trans.... 1. so what tav cable do i use from zoned auto 2. what tav bracket do i use to bolt to the manifold , ( a good one ) OK NOW HERE IS THE BIG QUESTION,,,, #3. SINCE I HAVE AN ecm CONTROLED 700R4 .. DO I HAVE TO BYE THE VACUM KIT TO PUT ON MY 700R4 LIKE TCI SAYES YOU NEED WHEN DOING THE SWAP ! NOW on www.CHEVYBOWTIE.com site there is a tech artical to wire the overdrive into the break pedal switch to take the trans out of over drive,,,,,

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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

1) TV cable for a TBI or carb car
2) bracket your choice, something sturdy
3) Your not trying to go into/out of overdrive, your trying to get torque converter to lock and unlock. ECM controls this - going to carb means no ECM function, thus no torque converter lockup. There's a tech article at top of carb forum about TCC lockup

You also need a geometry corrector for the carb linkage - summit $21
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Re: 305 tpi to 350 carb tranny kick down cable.

hello
do you know the part number for the summit part .... just trying to get eveything i need befor i do the swap....
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