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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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Hello

hey folks,

Im new to the board, unfortunately I dont have a Camaro but I want one!

Is there any other Scots on here?

Couple of questions..

Its the 5.7 IROC-Z I like, what are these babies like on fuel over here?

How do they handle and cope with our absolutely cack roads?

How quick are they really? (standard) I dont think they are too hot off the line - 6 seconds-ish?

With all that torque are they fantastic mid range?

What sort of things go wrong and troubles would I run into owning one over here?

Thanks for any replies.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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Re: Hello

Welcome!

Is there any other Scots on here?
Yes there's a few of on here, and there's quite a few of these cars around. I have a 1985 iroc-z with a 350, manual gearbox, and in a subtle yellow colour. My aim this year is to get it out on the track at Knockhill for a few trackdays. I'll let the others introduce themselves, or just look back through this section's history.

Its the 5.7 IROC-Z I like, what are these babies like on fuel over here?
Depends a lot on where/how you drive them, but they can get somewhere around the 20mpg mark on average.

How do they handle and cope with our absolutely cack roads?
If they are in good repair then they work just fine. Models like the iroc-z are very stiff cars and thus don't expect a smooth ride. Around Edinburgh there are a few too many speedbumps that I avoid as the ground clearance isn't massive.

How quick are they really? (standard) I dont think they are too hot off the line - 6 seconds-ish?
It all depends on what you fit them out with. The engines have a huge amount of scope for modification. yes stock is about the 6-7 second mark. The thing I like most about the iroc is how it deals with corners.... like its on rails!

With all that torque are they fantastic mid range?
Yes they are very drivable cars. Just watch out for too much wheelspin....

What sort of things go wrong and troubles would I run into owning one over here?
Where shall I start..... The main consideration with owning one over here is that you need somewhere to work on it, as very few garages would know what to do.

Getting parts for them is fairly easy, as there are a few places down south that can supply, or just order bits direct from america. rockauto.com and summitracing.com are my prefered.

One main consideration I have is that my car is 20+ years old, so as well as the never ending battle against rust, things will break, and need replaced. Great thing is that because they are old they are fairly easily repaired.

Si.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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Re: Re: Hello

Originally posted by iroc-si
Welcome!


Yes there's a few of on here, and there's quite a few of these cars around. I have a 1985 iroc-z with a 350, manual gearbox, and in a subtle yellow colour. My aim this year is to get it out on the track at Knockhill for a few trackdays. I'll let the others introduce themselves, or just look back through this section's history.
Is the chap with the maroon E-reg IROC that lives around charing cross in Glasgow on here? I see it all the time.



Originally posted by iroc-si
Depends a lot on where/how you drive them, but they can get somewhere around the 20mpg mark on average.
And if you cane it? I assume you can watch the needle take a dive?


Originally posted by iroc-si


If they are in good repair then they work just fine. Models like the iroc-z are very stiff cars and thus don't expect a smooth ride. Around Edinburgh there are a few too many speedbumps that I avoid as the ground clearance isn't massive.

Hmm, that is a worry, there are quite a few of those around here plus the roads are a joke (what do we pay road tax for??? ). I have been reading the reviews on the main site for months and in one it states something like, they are fantastic on smooth but absolutely dire if the road surface is poor, skipping from pothole to pothole... I wouldnt like to wreck my dream car 2 minutes after getting it!


Originally posted by iroc-si

It all depends on what you fit them out with. The engines have a huge amount of scope for modification. yes stock is about the 6-7 second mark. The thing I like most about the iroc is how it deals with corners.... like its on rails!
What would it take to get to the happy side of 5 and a half?



Originally posted by iroc-si
Where shall I start..... The main consideration with owning one over here is that you need somewhere to work on it, as very few garages would know what to do.

Getting parts for them is fairly easy, as there are a few places down south that can supply, or just order bits direct from america. rockauto.com and summitracing.com are my prefered.

One main consideration I have is that my car is 20+ years old, so as well as the never ending battle against rust, things will break, and need replaced. Great thing is that because they are old they are fairly easily repaired.

Si.

Aye thats surely a delight in this day and age of "Hmm I will have to plug it in to my computer Sir"

Originally posted by iroc-si
Welcome!
Thanks bud.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Hi Scotch,
Welcome mate, I think iroc-si pretty much covered it.As for performance modifications,well just spend a few hours (days!) reading through old threads to get an idea of what's involved.If you do get one,take your time to get as good a car as you can afford,especially in the body and paint department.Loads of junk for sale,few worth having.There is a V6 car for sale in Scotland at the moment on Ebay.A 92 model in what appears to be in exceptional condition.Good luck.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Hello

Originally posted by Scotch
Is the chap with the maroon E-reg IROC that lives around charing cross in Glasgow on here? I see it all the time.

Guy with a pony tail? If so I know of him. Was talking to him just before christmas. Is it Glasgow you are located in?

0-60 times vary greatly with these cars. 350s should be good for 0-60 in about 6 seconds flat, maybe a little less. The best I managed from a basic modded 305 was 6.29 seconds to 60 and that was with some wheel spin.

They are easy cars to work on and easy motors to get more power out of. I can get 20mpg if I'm sitting on the highway for long periods of time with the cops right behind me, otherwise when the coast is clear, I'm averaging much lower.

Prices for these cars have gone up slightly in the past few years, probably due to the fact that there is some real crap out there which bumps the decent ones up a little, but they are still pretty cheap starting at about £4000-£4500.

Fuel consumption isn't an issue, just keep pumping it in and it will keep the smile on your face. The tyre wear bothers me more, I get under 5000 miles to a set - the wheel spin is just constant.

Gordon is in Glasgow too and he's on here quite a bit. He has a Red T/A with a blue streak up the side. He's unmissable, but hasn't been on much the last week due to a new baby.

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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Thanks for the welcome fellas!

Aye the guy with the pony tail, I seen him out at it once, I was gonna stop and ask a few questions but thought that seemed a tad wierd haha

I havent seen any other third gens in Glasgow, I am sure the guy with a pony tail used to have a teal drop top couple of years back, but apart from those two I've never seen another!

Fuel economy does bother me a bit as it would be my only car, although I dont have to use it everyday for work..

And I dont want a V6, too slow..

I appreciate what you are saying about rust, I had a little Rover Coupe a few years ago which was consumed by it

I have heard that they go through "shocks for breakfast, pads for lunch and tyres for dinner" ...is there much truth in that? Tyres I understand, shocks though?
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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no prob with the shocks.And the pads hardly wear as the brakes are so bad!!!
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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Yeah, meant to say thanks again Powermite as I finally got around to fitting the rear shocks I got from you.... should have got them on it sooner as they have made a massive difference. The ones that were there were ancient.

I would certainly recomend upgrading the brakes from stock. Even if you don't go as crazy as me (13" pro series kit) then certainly little bits like, braided hoses, good pads, and perhaps an adjustable proportioning valve can surely make enough difference to the stock brakes to get them acceptable.

Si.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Brake pads??? On a thirdgen??? Nah, you don't need em mate, we're too busy going fast to worry about stopping.

Seriously though, don't know where you heard about shocks, pads etc...but do keep in mind 3rdgens factory production finished around 1992, so they will be at least 13 years old, oldest ones being 23 yrs old. 1982-1992.

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Re: Hello

Originally posted by Scotch
hey folks,

Im new to the board, unfortunately I dont have a Camaro but I want one!

Is there any other Scots on here?

Couple of questions..

Its the 5.7 IROC-Z I like, what are these babies like on fuel over here?

How do they handle and cope with our absolutely cack roads?

How quick are they really? (standard) I dont think they are too hot off the line - 6 seconds-ish?

With all that torque are they fantastic mid range?

What sort of things go wrong and troubles would I run into owning one over here?

Thanks for any replies.

I am a Misplaced Scot, living in the Colonies, thanks the my parents. :-)

The IROC-Z will get decent mileage, not the best, but petrol over here is signifigcantly cheaper, something like $2.20 USD per gallon. How much is it over there for Hi Test?

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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About $1.60 a litre. Worth every penny though.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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WOW!! And we whine and complain about $2.20 a gallon!! Good lord!! How much are tyres over there?
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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About $140 for a cheap one like Kumho Ecsta 712 (245/50/16).
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Geez, they (we) have it good over here. There shouyld be no bitching about gas prices or tyre prices. The Kuhmo here I have seen for as low as $75. I would be willing to pay 4 bux a gallon for gas if it meant the Prez here wouldn't go Oil Hunting in the Middle East. Just my opinion.
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