I need to know what the differences between these two are - I know that the 2055's come with the ypipe, but other than that, are they different? I'm talking if they're both coated, too, so that's not what I'm looking for. The reason I ask is that I can get the 2460's coated for 340 and the 2055's coated for 560. If the only difference is the ypipe, I won't have too much fabricating that on my own with universal pipes fit together. Anybody know enough about these two to be able to tell me what I should do? I mean, its over 200 bucks!

 

go with the 2460's....thats what i did and then just had a y-pipe made by an exhaust shop.....its the cheaper route

 

But do you know how they perform comparatively?

 

I cant guarantee it but I think that the 2055s have larger collectors. Also if you have a y pipe made chances are it wont be mandrel bent which is another power robber.

Ben

 

i dont think there is any diff.....and i had my y-pipe mandrel bent by the local exhaust guy here

 

Well, summit does say that they have the same size collectors I guess. However the 2055s say that they have equal length primaries and the 2460s dont. Another thing I noticed is that the 2460s said that they were for stock to mildly modified motors. I know that the 2460s are designed for the carbed cars which had a vacume operated valve on the passenger side. This will possibly change the length of the collecter, however that shouldnt matter if you are making a custom y pipe. One thing that I have read is that even the 2055s 3 inch collecter is made much smaller by the gasket. I believe someone on the boards said that they were able to trim the gaket so that the collector size was better.

Ben

 

hmmm, now I'm torn...i really dont want to have to pay that extra 220!

 

Well, I just tried to tell you everything I could find about them. If you can have a "good" y pipe made I think they will be fine. The only thing that I saw different was that the 2055s are supposed to be equal length which I have read actually makes very little difference. The only down side that that I see is that if the y pipe is not mandrel bent it will restrict your flow. If you can get a mandrel bent y pipe made or make one out of universal bends like you mentioned ou should be fine. I guess it just depends on what you have access to and what you will settle for as far as a y pipe.

Ben

 

Ok I took a close look at both of them and neither one are equal-length primaries, in fact they look to be about the same except in the pics one is coated and the other isnt.

Since they are both 1 5/8" primaries with 3" collectors too, I figure the only difference is that the 2055's come with a nice y-pipe that flows well I suppose, which makes them Supercomp instead of just Comp.

Anybody have better info or agree with me?

I also noticed that the 2055s come with AIR tubes, while the 2460s do not. I know that AIR tubes on SLP's adds $100 to the price - I figure this is further evidence that the ypipe and AIR tubes are the only reasons the 2055s cost more.

 

Where are you looking at the pictures because the pictures on summit I dont even think match the headers at least on the uncoated versions because they showed long tubes for the 2460's. Yes, the air tubes will add extra cost and clutter. I know that summit describes the 2055s as equal length though.

Ben

 

Can you get them coated elsewhere cheaper? This is the question you should be asking. I think Jet Hot will do the headers for $110 or check out http://www.BlueStormAuto.com This guy is local to me and I plan on having him coat my headers here soon. He does some great work!

 

Momar, I looked at the correct photos from Holley's hooker website, so I know they're the right ones.

1MEAN92RS - No, I'm not considering getting them coated by anybody else than Jet-Hot at this point. It would be much more expensive either way to buy the 2055s. BTW that link you provided only looks like they do powdercoating as far as I can see, which obviously wouldn't do **** for headers. They may not list all their services tho. I see they do high temp coating but that doesn't keep the heat in like ceramic, it just keeps the headers looking pretty.

 

2055's have A.I.R. tubes and O2 sensor fitting. 2460's have the O2 fitting but A.I.R. has to be special ordered.

The collectors are different. The 2460's have the "standard" 3" collector flange connection. The 2055's have a ball-flange connection with two bolts. Personally, I think the 2460 collector design is superior, but I don't have any data to back that up. The 2055 opening in the ball is only 2" (for sealing, Hooker says - mine was actually 1.9"). I did a fit check of the y-pipe, then opened up the hole to the down-pipe ID, centered where they mated. No leaks (except when one side loosened up - no problems since I tightened it up again).

Neither are equal length. Unless you match to cylinder firing, that doesn't make much difference, anyway. And, shorties aren't pulse-tuned, either (too short), which is part of what makes equal-length work.

The 2055 y-pipe is an excellent product. Getting one made by a shop of equal quality will cost you much, much more than $200. The y-pipe alone makes the extra cost worth it.

If you want coated, buy them from Jet Hot or send the new pieces to them. They coat inside and out, Hooker only delivers them coated exterior. The y-pipe isn't coated, you'd have to request that special (and pay the extra cost) - not a bad idea, since the driver's side tube runs right under the oil pan.

 

Have I ever mentioned how AWESOME you are five7?!? Thats some great info there. The Jet Hot deal is great because they coat the inside too (headers usually rust from the inside-out).

james, well Todd (at Blue Storm Auto) was going to ceramic coat mine, not just powdercoat... maybe he's just doing it on the side. I didn't realize that he didn't list it as a service on his website.

The only thing I'm looking for in a header that I haven't found yet is removable air tubes. Not only will this allow me to get rid of all that mess inbetween inspections, but will also allow me to use a pyrometer in each header pipe for tuning if I ever go to a MPFI system. I figure that I can do it with the hookers, it will just take some fabbing time.

 

Actually my 2460's were coated inside and out....

 

You're sure of that Black91Z28? Because right now that's the only thing keeping me from buying them straight out. Anybody know this for a fact?

 

i'm 99% certain.....because when i looked at them, they looked exactly the same inside and out

 

Shiny chrome-like?

 

yup......look at this and read it

http://www.atlanticspeed.com/store/H...%20Headers.asp

 

I hope they're right - this is good news but it is possible that they assume it's inside and out. I'm not saying I don't believe it really, just still a little skeptical.

5/7 - why did you think they weren't? You may know something we don't

 

call up holley and ask them......easiest way to know for sure

 

Good point! How come I didn't think of that?

 

I was just taking what Jet Hot said at face value. If someone ordered 2460-1's from Hooker/Summit/Jegs, and they arrived coated inside and out, I don't have any reason not to believe them.

 

I have those headers for my 88 formula 350 and they were coated inside and outside. Have them on for 3 years and holding up well. I ordered them with the air tubes also. No answer though as why they never made a y pipe for this series header but for the 2055 they did. Has anyone ever received a reason why.

 

I've had two series of communications with Hooker - first about a y-pipe for 2460's, second about details of the 2055's after I already had them.

In the first, they simply said, "There is no y-pipe available for purchase." No explaination, I can only assume they don't believe there is a market for it. Although several on this forum have cried for such a product, I doubt collectively we could change their mind.

In the second, I was told "There is no y-pipe available separately for purchase." No explaination, I can only assume they don't believe there is a market for it...

Think about it: The newest of our cars are coming up on 12 years old in the manufacturing world (tooling up for 2004 models is starting to happen now). Developing, tooling, and producing products for a market supporting cars getting that old is not going to be seen as profitable, I'm afraid.

 

they should have them made-to-order....only produce them when an order comes in that way they make money and dont waste time and materials

 

Yeah, they should have the technology to do that.

 

Kinda off topic, but not really - but where's the best place to get universal bends and such to piece together a ypipe? I know you can pick up various pieces at autozone but probably not all of them.

 

Offer them your car for the prototyping (you'll pay for the cost of bending up the pipes); with CNC bending equipment they should be able to do it, right.

Perhaps a poll: "Who would like to see Holley/Hooker offer a y-pipe for 2460 shorties for '86-'91 single-cat TPI applications?"

 

Do they do stuff like that? Seems like they'd have better resources. Regardless, though, my car's a daily driver, so I couldn't really do without it for long and I doubt hooker's anywhere near here! You'd think they'd have simply adapted the 2055 pipe - it can't be terribly different.

 

I Have looked at both sets also, They do look very much alike, or almost identical except for the collectors. I just bought a set of 2460s and I am wondering if it would be possible to just buy the 2055 Y-pipe, cut the collectors off and use 2 1/2 collector/reducers to make it work with the 2460s.
Any input Guys?

 

I don't think Hooker sells the 2055 ypipe by itself, in fact I'm pretty sure they dont.

 

They do only directly from the factory. $150 or so.

assuming this is the correct picture of the 2460
http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...2460-1HKR.html
the collector is different from the 2055 and not compatable.

 

I just joined and this is one of the questions that I need answered. I have the 2460s and a bad y pipe fabrication. I would think that the 2055 y pipe collectors cut be cut and new ones welded. The most important part to me would be the y pipe itself.Im going to get in touch with Hookers' and hopefully get an answer.

 

Man if I was going to buy that $150 ypipe I'd just go ahead and buy the 2055's - that's only $50 more and probably better product! So I'm still going to try and fabricate my own ypipe.

 

Called holley to see about getting a y pipe for the 2055's. I bought a set off internet without one.

The answer was YES you can order one.... $150 and 6 to 8 weeks. What they would do is add ONE Y-pipe to the manufacturing order the next time they build. They would then ship you that one extra one.


I have a set of 2055's still in the hooker box i am willing to part with...MINUS the y-pipe. Everything else is there.... If someone is of the mind to get a local shop to fabricate one for them....

PM me or justadba@attbi.com

 

That's good to know. That was not their response when I asked about 2 years ago. If yours gets smashed or rusts out, now you know you don't have to buy a whole new set of headers or settle for a hack job by a muffler shop to get a new y-pipe.

 

always glad to help......