Hey guys , Im 16 and i just purchased an 88 Iroc Z with a 305 and i have been having a hard decision choosing which exhaust to get. I have decided to get TES edelbrock headers, high flow cat, and i have been having trouble deciding either to get flowmasters american thunder cat back or buy the 80 series and just get custom exhaust off of that. But i want to know which one will be the loudest and sound the best. Well thanx for all of your help .

 

Get THE exhaust system, not JUST the muffler.

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89 RS

STILL Looking For:
An 87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI


[This message has been edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (edited August 10, 2001).]

 

I see this so often that I must say something.

Loudness is not an indication of automotive excellence. Never buy an exhaust system simply to make your car loud. That only tells people that you are a teenager, either in fact or in maturity.

A high performance exhaust system should be purchased and designed to extract (or release, as one's conviction may be) the maximum amount of horsepower and torque from the engine at hand. The level in decibels that this provides is in no way related to success of the former objective, other than it will usually be somewhat louder.

To my mind, a quieter muffler will provide a stealth aspect to your car, an understated tone of unconcern that the person next to you, revving the snot of his motor, is anything to be taken seriously. You simply step on the gas and your well designed and balanced Camaro walks all over the juvenile's attempt at performance car heroics.

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1986 Camaro Sports Coupe
T-tops, variable wiper, power hatch, rear defrost, third brake light
LG4 305 V8, Hooker Shorty headers, 3" pipe into Walker Quiet Flow dual exhaust
Edelbrock Performer intake, "Damonized" Q-Jet 4bbl, K&N filter, Crane ignition kit
TH700R4 transmission and Derale cooler
Air conditioning, power windows, power door locks, power brakes, power steering, tilt wheel
Kenwood cassette, Pioneer 6x4 component front speakers
Rockford Fosgate 6x9 Punch rear speakers
Z-28 front and rear sway bars
Aluminum slots and Goodyear 225x60R15 Eagle HP tires
243 horsepower and 326 fp torque at the flywheel
_ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _
Yea verily, and he smote the smog heathens from his small block Chevy, even from the air pump to the converter ...
Todd 1:1

 

Well spoken....



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Year: 1990
Make: Chevorlet
Model: Z-28 / IROC-Z
Color: Artic White w/ Gold decals
Engine: 5.0L V8 TPI
Trans: 700R4 Auto w/ Overdrive
Wheels: 16" 1992 Z-28 rims (w/ white trim)
Tires: Z-rated Fulda Extremos 245/50/16s (new)
Extra: Power options, T-Tops, Tinted Windows
Mods in progress: Borla stainless steel exhaust, Chrome Headers, Ram Air....

 

Unfortunately, my learned brethren Sitting Bull failed to mention the "chick-appeal" inherently associated with a louder exhaust. Let's not misdirect ourselves, we do this mostly for the speed, BUT the members of the opposite sex that see a car as a status symbol will appreciate the louder exhaust more.
To put it simply, I got more chicks when I was running open exhaust, than when I bought a Flowmasturbator cat-back.

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No guts, no glory.

 

So do Ricers with Wet Fart Mufflers get more chicks?


I agree with the Sitting Bull, exhaust are designed to get maximum performance out of your cars engine and a cool deep throated muscular tone is a byproduct.

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1989 GTA 350 TPI
Stock:
- T-tops
- Dual cats
- 9-Bolt 7.75" Rearend
- 3.27 gears
Mods:
- Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler

1992 RS 305 TBI - Sold

 

NT,

It would also be a mistake to believe that every girl out there is completely ignorant when it comes to cars!

Personally, I would want one that could think her way through the "loud exhaust is manly" syndrome and understood that a great car is a combination of parts chosen for performance--not merely sound

In other words, you want an intelligent woman, not a hussy that throws herself at every loud car that goes by.

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1986 Camaro Sports Coupe
T-tops, variable wiper, power hatch, rear defrost, third brake light
LG4 305 V8, Hooker Shorty headers, 3" pipe into Walker Quiet Flow dual exhaust
Edelbrock Performer intake, "Damonized" Q-Jet 4bbl, K&N filter, Crane ignition kit
TH700R4 transmission and Derale cooler
Air conditioning, power windows, power door locks, power brakes, power steering, tilt wheel
Kenwood cassette, Pioneer 6x4 component front speakers
Rockford Fosgate 6x9 Punch rear speakers
Z-28 front and rear sway bars
Aluminum slots and Goodyear 225x60R15 Eagle HP tires
243 horsepower and 326 foot pounds of torque at the flywheel
_ _ _ _ _ __ _ _ _ _ _
Yea verily, and he smote the smog heathens from his small block Chevy, even from the air pump to the converter ...
Todd 1:1

 

When I ran around with open headers for awhile NOBODY would pull up to me at a stop light and try to race me and 9 out of 10 times the person walking down the street would turn their head and stare. Now since I put on my Hooker Aero-Chamber 3" people are starting to try to race me again and nobody turns their head ...I think the "sleeper" affect is the best.

 

I agree with Sitting Bull's post. Especially about people picking the exhaust system solely on the sound.

Then I notice everyone else who also shares that viewpoint has a Walker muffler..

I think cars can sound "good" without sounding "loud".

 

Mmph, I agree totally from a enthusiasts standpoint. A quieter exhaust is, overall, a better idea.
But, unfortunately, there aren't too many "car crazy cuties" out there, that can make the link between a quiet rumble, and horsepower.

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No guts, no glory.

 

All your fighting is stupid, just help the kid out... go with the hooker cat-back it is as loud as you would need it but more importantly its mean, it has 3 inch piping for maximum HP gain and looks nice too, the girls will like it and everyone will know you have a bad *** car, although I prefer my formula to a camaro.. girls know tough guys drive pontiac, jk guys have fun with your new car...

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1988 Formula 350
Maroon, 5 speed
Edelbrock 750 cfm carb
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake manifold
Hooker super comp. headers
Hookerheaders 3 inch cat-back
3 inch pipe from headers all the way to the muffler
Gutted cat
K&N filter
WS6 Package
ATGI underbody purple neons
Black light interior

 

Go with hooker,

Good sound that you won't be dissapointed by. Docile idle but roars when you step on it. A perfect balance of both. However I must stress to anyone buying hooker cat back. DON"T USE THE CHROME TIPS. They rust all over in about 2 MONTHS TIME. The chrome plating is very thin and will rust in between the pipes in no time. Makes my car look crappy. On a good note, I was having problems with my baby and she was runnin rich and helped cover some of that rust in the tips with soot.

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1990 RS 305 TBI T-5
.5" turbocity spacer
Edelbrock TBI intake
180* stat
Summit 14X3 OpenElement W/k&N
Hooker 3" Areochamber
MSD - Wires, Cap, Rotor, Coil
Bosch Platinum +4 plugs
Metallic Red w/28,000 Pampered miles
(Still have the original wiper blades)

 

I've had my Hooker cat-back installed for like 2 weeks and the tail pipes are completely rusted. The I-pipe looks brand new and so do the tips though ...weird.

 

I could deal with the rust in the tips because that can be sanded out. But when rust came right thru the chrome between the tips, that made me mad, and made the car look like a white trash chrome add-on. Hooker is getting a letter. Oh but the I pipe and muffler still look terrrific. The funny thing is, Hooker advertises these systems with "GREAT LOOKING CHROME TIPS"

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1990 RS 305 TBI T-5
.5" turbocity spacer
Edelbrock TBI intake
180* stat
Summit 14X3 OpenElement W/k&N
Hooker 3" Areochamber
MSD - Wires, Cap, Rotor, Coil
Bosch Platinum +4 plugs
Metallic Red w/28,000 Pampered miles
(Still have the original wiper blades)

 

When you've got a motor with lots of power it doesn't matter which exhuast or mufflers you've got it will just sound MEAN! My Camaros exhaust is loud but I can also back it up!

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383 86 Camaro Z28
10.5:1compression Dart Pro 1 Aluminum heads 215cc>2.05/1.60 valves,400 steel crank,cam specs:224/234 at 050 525/525 lift,3500 stall converter,shift kit,3.42 gears,770 Holley Avenger,Victor Jr. Intake,true dual exh,Hooker headers with 40 series Flowmasters,MSD Coil and Module.

 

i heard if you clearcoat the tips before u install it its fine... maybe im wrong?