I just picked up a set of Flowtech Headers from PepBoys for a mere price of $65. I know these aren't the best quality but you can't beat the price. I don't know if it was a sale going on at just my local store or if it's nationwide, you might want to check it out.

 

maybe if you have a LG4 or and L03 with zero mods... the flowtech's suck above and beyond any header out there. 1.5 primary, 2inch collector?

 

What part of $65 did you miss?

Good score Spider.

Did that include the y-pipe?

 

What number flowtechs are these?

 

what part of waste of money did you miss? Your gunna end up spending more money for better headers... so that 70 bucks is gone... wasted on a set of headers that isnt worth the time for advertisment. Dont buy these heades.

 

That sounds like a very good buy. Granted they aint long tubes but there alot better then the stock ones, well worth the investment. Just remember the clean the heads off before you install them, also might wanna invest another $30 and get the flowtech aluminum gaskets.


Edit: Just looked at your sig. Are these for a 3rdgen or your truck? Ive got a set of the same or similiar ones non 4WD. I stepped up in size and brand latter on but the fowtechs cost around that price and you could get to all the plugs with no problems. NO.4 or .6 I forget, ya need a wrench to get the plug loose the rest is by hand but it is alot easer then getting the plugs out with them then these hooker's. I did notice a slight power increase over the stock manifolds but I had the good stock ones before so I dident expect much. Also The suggestion above still stands but get the aluminum collector gaskets too just make sure to snug them before you weld the pipes in place.

 

the best headers out there as far as hp per dallor gain is probly headman long tubes for just under 300 or headmans which you can get them w/ the y pipe for just under 300(if i'm not mistaken)

 

for 119.95 you could have gotten hedman headers that are 1 5/8ths primary and with an extra 95 you could have gotten the y pipe.

 

i say good buy- not a waste of money at all-i think if he had money to spend on your so called great headers he woulda...

 

ahhhhhhhh... the newbies will never learn. Yeah, your guys are right.

 

hmmm 65 dollars or 215?? i just dont know

 

i have the flowtech headers....... they're ok for my 305, but i might try them on my 350 and see how they react.

you can't really go wrong with them. they're easy as hell to get to on the passenger's side. of course, having a non a/c car helps. i'll have to test fit them in my z28 (with a/c) to see how tight the fit is in there.

 

I just went from flowtechs w/ stock ws6 I-pipe and flowmaster muffler to some hedman 1 5/8, with a hooker catback.

I ran 12.60 @ 110 on a 85f day.. If I don't run any faster on the same conditions, I guess ripping the flowtechs out and everything was a waste of money.. If I do go faster, than I'm on the bandwagon!

-- Joe

 

Whoa bigal, looks like you're the "newbie" compared to most of these guys.

$65 is quite a deal for headers, as long as they bolt up fine. They've got to be better than stock manifolds. 110mph shows that they're at least good for some 400+ horsepower.

 

pretty sure they're 2.5" collectors with 1.5" primaries..... if they are the same flowtechs that I have. Unless they are the truck ones.... don't have a clue about those.

 

other side

 

They have got to be better than stock. Just gotta be.

 

Where at?? I would love to have some to go with my z28. Long tubes or shorties? If I ran long tubes, would I have any complications with access to other parts?

 

at least the tubes dont look like they get squashed at the collectors like in my $350 edelbrocks.

 

I bought those flowtechs used for $100 or so (I forget) with the y pipe. They are a bit on the small side and probably will get replaced later on by some Hedmans or Hookers, but they are fairly easy to work with due to their smaller size and they are hard to beat if you're really on a budget. My philosophy was that they are better than manifolds and I really couldn't pass up the deal. The y-pipe is at best marginally better than stock and it did take a couple or raps from a hammer to get it to squeeze under the oil pan. Oh yea, another thing.... the y-pipe going into the cat was actually smaller than the stock size (2.5 vs. 3"). This is my first set that actually don't leak at the collectors, but it is also my first set that came with a y-pipe, too.

 

look in jegs, summit, and pace parts. Thoes are the 3 mags and I see the 3 prices in there. They are hedman shorties.

Im far from a newbie. I asked this question when I first signed up and everyone said it was a bad idea and only to be used on stock-mild 305's and on 350's that dont push that much. $65 is a good buy, but thats $65 less for when you want a decent set of headers. There is a reason its $65 bucks.

 

they are 2.5 inch collectors. they weigh considerably less than stock manifolds. they flow considerablely better than stock. they cost 65 bucks. they literally drop right in. there is nothing about that deal that is a waste.

any headers, are better than the cast manifolds. those things are fit only to be used as boat anchors or a poor excuse for a club.

 

Yes, better then manifolds... but you dont understand that the money could have gone to a set of hedman headers. They are 109, will flow way better the the small flowtechs and you have a lot more flexability with them as you can put them on pretty decent engines.

 

I agree with BigAl. At forst glance they might seem like a good buy, but in this case you get what you pay for. I suggest saving your money a little longer and getting better headers with 1 5/8 primaries and atleast a y pipe that is worth a crap. Just look at that thing, it's not much better than stock.

 

For the money, the hedman's are a better deal. Figure about $20.00 more for the whole setup. But the y-pipe needs to be modified anyway..

Though most people won't notice a difference in power from the flowtechs to even the hooker 2055s because their cars simply arnt that hot.

-- Joe

 

every time i read your post, it makes me less and less sure on what headers I want to buy next month... you son of a.... hehehe.

 

i do understand that the money can go towards hedmans, but the perhaps he didnt want to spend that much at the moment or whatever.

just for the record, i run hedman long tubes; these replaced a set of flowtechs. the long tubes worked with my true dual setup better; combined with a deal i couldnt refuse (154 dollars canadian, w/ tax), i made the switch.

 

The simple fact is, there is no good answer for the thirdgen. Everything on these cars are difficult.

I went with hedman. They're fairly cheap, 1 5/8, and I can modify the y-pipe (as you've seen in my other post) fairly easily. Figure $220 for uncoated 68470s, then a few mandrel bends to modify the pipe (figure 30.00).

For about $130 more you can go with 2055's uncoated, and not have to modify a thing..

Now I did run these flowtechs from Aug 2000, til about 2 weeks ago. They were wrapped with DEI header wrap. I spent about $210 initially + shipping, and another $60 or so on the wrap at the time. (plus the $100 for the direct fit 3" cat).. And sold the whole setup here on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2442056025

If you can get the flowtechs for $65, and spend another $100 on the y-pipe.. then.. I guess you got an Ok deal.

-- Joe

 

You speak the truth. Hey, wana modify my y pipe when I get it? it will probably be cheaper then having some guy rip me at a muffler shop.

 

If you buy the bends from jcwhitney (or whoever) and bring everything to my shop, sure.

Your in Mass anyway, arnt you?

-- Joe

 

All of this header stuff is giving me a headache. There are so many headers on the market, and so many people with different needs. "Best" and "good" are totally subjective, so we can argue forever and not get anywhere. Best thing to do is just present all the evidence we can and let people decide on their own. Same with cat-back systems.

 

Alex is right about them not being the greatest header. For a 305 like the LG4 or the LO3 you will see a diffrence but they do nothing for any higher output motors. Even the penut cammed LB9's ont get muh help from them.

However, if you do have the first 2 motors i mentioned, they do help. I speak from experience. My 86 has the stock, from carb to oil pan, LG4. I have the flowtechs a highflow cat, and a 3inch exhaust, along with a open airfilter, the car ran a 15.5. Not exactly mustang busting power but it was definately an improvement over when i got the car.