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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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what did u do when u put on ur headers and the p/s pump brackets didnt fit.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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mine did fit they bolted up fine
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:54 AM
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mine fit fine too
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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so the pwr steering unit bolted up to your headers no prob can i see some pics please.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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You're talking about the support rod bracket thing correct? My SLP headers had place for it, but i'm not using it. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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there might have been a spacer that allows you to use the factory stud. it would just take up the rest of the space that the manifolds usually would so the rod fits in the factory position
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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ok so one of u isnt using the bracket and the other is im confused i need pics
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Car: 92 firebird and 95 trans am
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first of all do you have a serpentine drive or v- belts my serpentine car has a little spacer that slides on the factory stud like a washer. it makes the same effect as the factory manifold inside the stud. the power steering bracket bolts to that. my car with v- belts mounts completely different and has no mounting spot on the headers
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Re: guys with headers

Originally posted by jocww
what did u do when u put on ur headers and the p/s pump brackets didnt fit.
SLP tri y headers and their ac bracket, everything (AC and Power steering ) hooked up great........
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:00 AM
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v belts. how much are slp headers and do they have o2 fittings and crap as i dont have all those vacum lines and dont want them or the openings if i can help it
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:21 AM
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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for 479 ill go buy some sandersons or hookers geeze thats alot for headers
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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Nothing wrong with the Hookers, except you'll have to weld up the A.I.R. tubes if you get the 2055s. The 2460s don't have a y-pipe.... yet. Those Sanderson headers look like they are only 1.5" primaries and 2.5" collectors.
In fact, right now I'm trying to decide on the 2055s or the 1 3/4" SLPs. Too bad the SLPs neck down to 2.5" at the collectors.

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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i dont have to worry about air as im smog exempt im not sure if i wanna go full length or shorties. im lookin at the summit headers which are really headman and theyre only 80.00 which is a whole lot cheaper than any others that i see. that will proform at least pretty well. what do you guys think about them the summit ones are shorties.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure those Summit ones are actually made by Hedman. Seems like I read somewhere they are made by flowtech or dynomax. One was to find out is compare the primary and collector size. The flowtech's and dynomax's have 1.5" primaries and 2.5" collectors and all the flanges on them are extremely thin and prone to warping/ bending. At least mine did.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
Engine: l69 and a hyped up sbc in the camino
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Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
really im very pleased with my dynomax full length headers on my elco of course i paid a lil over 200 but they were ceramic coated.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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I was actually referring to the shorties. I guess I never have had much luck with getting the 3 bolt flat collectors sealing on any headers I've had (that's where my flanges bent), so I'm going to buy a set with the ball type collectors or the donut like the SLPs. My flowtechs served me well, for the price. Now I need bigger primaries for my new heads... even the SLP 1 5/8" headers were too small to port them to match my exhaust ports. The Dynomax long tubes are probably 1 5/8", aren't they?
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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to be honest i dont remeber. ive never really had any problems with the flanges but it would suck if they werent true and didnt mate with the heads id be damn pissed
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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my edelbrocks have the donut typeflange it is awesome like 2 years almost and not a single leak knock on woood
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Well the problem is with my SLPs not mating up seems to be that the exhaust ports on my trickflow heads are wider than the port entries into the headers. I tried to port match them, but I can only do so much. Those 3/8" thick flanges are great for port matching, but it is still a pretty steep angle where the primary meets the exhaust port. I did figure out a good way to port headers though (off the car). I bolted them up, hooked up a shopvac to the collector and spray painted into where the exhaust valve would be, so when I took them off, the spots where the header overlapped the exhaust port were painted. I could even look down into the exhaust bowl and see where they overlapped on the edges. I might get the 1 3/4" ones and hope they are bigger where they meet the head. I really like the quality of the SLPs.

Here is a pic of one of the unported SLPs (top) and a Corvette header (bottom) I borrowed. The Corvette header matched up pretty good to my heads. I know it doesn't look much bigger, but it makes quite a bit of difference. Actually the middle ones are do-able, but the outer two primaries are worse.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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would never have thought about the spray paint.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by iceman02
I wouldn't be so sure those Summit ones are actually made by Hedman. Seems like I read somewhere they are made by flowtech or dynomax. One was to find out is compare the primary and collector size. The flowtech's and dynomax's have 1.5" primaries and 2.5" collectors and all the flanges on them are extremely thin and prone to warping/ bending. At least mine did.
well if you think of it in physics terms the thinner the flange matirial the better. the metel is going to expand in all directions when it heats up. if the flanges are thicker, they will expand even more. thats why stainless steel headers are prone to cracking. stainless expands like crazy when it heats up.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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so has anybody ever tried summit headers also about this spacer what should i use. i dont wanna use alotta washers would a thin piece of pipe work.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
what kind of mufflers are you guys running. i want it to be sleeperish if i keep this car nothing to loud
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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I hear the Magnaflow mufflers sound pretty stock, but flow well.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 01:53 AM
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how much are those suckers. i was also looking at edelbrocks mufflers
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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edelbrock muffler is pretty quiet but flows real good. should like that muffler.

also, dynomax super turbos or whatever flow real good but are quiet.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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ok well i think im going to get the thrush as there only 15.00 a piece. how much are those dynomax ones.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
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Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
got the summit headers i think ill run the strait shorties for awhile
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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I grinded alittle off of the support bracket for mine and then took a hammer to it to bend it alittle and it went back on np.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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grinded what 91
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Ok, I have the Pacesetters, and people on this board hate them cuz of their small collectors. On my 305 they do just fine. The fit is great and they work miracles. However, make sure that you install your headers right! I took mine to a shop and they ****ed me over!! The dude only bolted one side of the tube leaving the other side without a bolt. The bolts were loose as well. So I heard some leakeage, I re-tightend the bolts up top and the leakage was still there. Than I went under the car and oh my!!!
I was so pissed, but they just denied everything so I had to bolt them up myself. Wow, I noticed a big *** difference. The car is a lot more responsive and it actually sounds like the car has headers. The rubber ends on that collector however need to be replaced and there is still a little leak. So, plz be carefull.

Wait a minute, you already installed them!! Sorry.... Make sure you re-tighten the bolts!!
Also, my p/s does not have any kind of brackets that go to the manifold or headers. Its an 89 firebird, so take it for what its worth.
I think flowmaster mufflers are a good choice for single pipe setup!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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well what about ur a/c
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by jocww
ok well i think im going to get the thrush as there only 15.00 a piece. how much are those dynomax ones.
You talking about the thrush magnum glasspacks?

I'm running those straight off of hedman headers off of a 350HO...

that thing gets really loud WOT, pretty loud cruising at 1800 RPM's too...kinda drowns out your brain

If there was some thrush muffler you're talking about, disregard my post, lol.

Brandon
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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I modified my PS bracket when I installed the headers. Function is great but kind of looks rough.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Didn't have to do anything on the passanger side.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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rjm do u have any more pics close up pics. etc
if u do please post thanks
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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well the summit headers fit decently had to do a little minor surgery i had to take them off be4 i put the engine in but one the engine was in it only took 30 min tops for both sides. now all i have to do is find some way to mount my ac and ps lines
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