1BADRZ28

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just got these today. Ed just started offering headers for stock chassis cars or those not running an aftermarket k memeber. The only thing I had to do was change to moroso motor mounts because my clam shells didn't work. For the money, these are the best headers on the market for those that need larger than 1 3/4 or are tired of Hookers leaking o-ring seals. These were mounted to my test mule. The headers fit straight/angle plug heads and any mini starter you can think of. You can even use a oil filter mounted to the block only it has to be a short one. They also have enough room for a kick out oil pan.

I'll update you on the exhaust when I have the 3.5 inch oval done.

BlueBeast

If you dont mind me asking how much did you pay for them?

1BADRZ28

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650.00 for 1 7/8 otherwise they are 595.00 for 1 3/4. I paid for a few upgrades.

Mkos1980

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Not bad at all

BlueBeast

what upgrades did you get? Are these specifically for a stock chassis car? I have a tube k member and a arms I am sure they will fit with that front end I was just curious about everything. I might be calling Ed Quay very soon..... again. Thanks

FSTFBDY

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Verry Nice .. Now have em ceramic coated and your golden. !!

1BADRZ28

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Ed quay has form you fill out so they know the specifics of your car. My upgrades where tube size (30.00) and I had the welding finished on the flanges They usually don't do that becaus ethey want you to set the angle since most people they deal with have tall decks and non standard heads etc...

blyth18md

I know you said kicked out pans, but any specifics on which pans may cause trouble? I plan on running cantons road race pan?

mini starter and short filter...possibly motor mounts? I can deal with that.

Hurry and get some ground clearance photos...i cant really afford what Stahl wants for his headers...

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when I spoke with Ed Quay, they told me that there isn't a pan they've seen that wouldn't fit between the headers. I have the Moroso with the kickouts and have no issues at all. The motor is dynoing next week so I'll have installed pics or I'll use my mock up engine to show clearance. Sometime next week.

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this is how headers should fit. No "clearance" issues at all. They tuck under the car like 2210's and mine have 3.5 inch collectors. With the solid mounts it gives the headers room also. Take a peek for yourself. the only issue now will be exhaust but i think i am going to do oval.

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more pics

Neil87Z28

1BADRZ28,

If you wouldn't mind, could you take a measurement from the bottom of the block (oil pan rail) to the bottom of the primaries? I'd like to find out how far those headers would hang below my 8.25" deep Moroso pan.

Thanks. --Neil

Comp788

They look nice and a much better price then I paid to have my set custom built.

But I am not at all of a fan of a slip on collector. Those collectores are slip on and attach with bolts. Right?

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yes, they attach with bolts.

Neil87z28 the headers measure 8.5 inches from the oil pan rail

heavy_chevy29

well im sold. ill be giving him a call when i put the new trans in. they look awsome.

Comp788

Are you going to use them on the street with exhaust? Curious to see how bad they will leak or are you going to seal them up with sealer?

matt_p

Very nice headers, but solid motors mounts?

1BADRZ28

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This is my street strip car. I am curious why you think they will leak? They have a machined flat surface that goes against the head and I will be using gaskets. I know most people with race headers use silicone. I am not a big fan of it as it looks rediculous under the hood. The collectors surely will not leak unless Hooker super comps leak as they have a tube that slides into the collector also.( I never had an issue with super comp leaking.) I'd rather have a machined flat surface than an o-ring seal with bent flages that are likely to happen over time like the rest of the headers on the market. I am going to seperate the tubes from the flange as it makes it easier to get the headers in and out.


I'd rather have solid mounts than have the factory rubber ones rip out. Plus, you actually have more room twithhe clam shells out of the way and they look nicer I think. This by no means is a car that will driving cross country.

At least these give people another alternative that need larger headers without the huge pricetag. I'll post pics of my oval exhaust once I get it finished. I have to fab up a u bend to go under the trans crossmember. Dr gas doesn't make on that way. His bends are only in the plane.

Neil87Z28

Thanks very much for the info. Also, if it's not too much trouble, I'm interested to know the inside diameter of the primaries at the flange (height and width).

Thanks again. --Neil

1BADRZ28

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once,I take them out again I'll mic them. You can order them with the stahl pattern if you want. I just didn't want to deal with adapter plate. I believe the it the measuremant should be 1.75 in or just over it. If you are looking for maximum flow adapter plates would be the way to go.

stiletto

i bought a set about 5 months ago, i got the 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 stepped with a 3.5 in collector. they are great.

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clearance pics underneath

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more

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heavy_chevy29

dam man. the more pics i see the more i want to get them. oh well ill just have to wait untill after i do my trans. what is the turn around time for them from when you order them.

1BADRZ28

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turn around time was 7 days

Tony89GTA

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Those headers look amazing! The fit looks great to but I'am wondering why you went so big on the tubes? Like how much HP can 1 7/8 support compared to say 1 3/4 headers? Also what are you planning for the rest of the exhaust from the headers back?

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the motor should dyno in the 600's and will also have a nice healthy hit of nitrous. I was just planning for the future. Exhaust is 3.5 oval.

BlueBeast

Man they really look good.

blyth18md

I would still like to see a ground level clearance photo, with the car on its wheels. Let me know when you get it on the ground.

Thanks

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It will be a while as I just put an order in for a Spohn k member. Once I have that and t he engine back it will be on the ground.

Neil87Z28

How is the oil filter and starter clearance? Thanks. -Neil

Comp788

What about the collectors? Are you going to just wed the exhaust to the collectors or add on a 3 bolt flange?

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I will be adding the flanges otherwise the oval exhaust pipe I have ordered is slip fit. I am about a month away from fabbing up the exhaust totally.


I had a mini starter installed during mock up and someone could possibly use a stock starter as there was a lot of room. The oil filter needs to be a short style filter but can be left in the conventional spin on spot.

Comp788

Sounds good.

Not sure about a small oil filer though. I really like my HP4's..

Will be looking forward to seeing how your exhaust comes out. Everyone has different ides on how to do things.

I used duel 3" into a 4" single and have tons of room but I also relocated my frame rails to do so. But then my car is also lowered three inches.

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just updating the thread. I fabbed up the frame rails with 2x3 tubing and mocked up the oval exhaust (the first 48 inches.) on both sides. With the oval exhaust, I won't need any bends as the headers point straight back and positions the exhaust right under the seats and will use all straight tubing with Dyno max 3.5 inch bullets by the rear end. The oval exhaust is only 2 1/4 inches thick and spreads 4 1/8 inches. Road clearance will be superb as it only hangs less than inch below my fame rails which are direct extensions from the transmission crossmeber frame that I removed. I found a Moroso oil filter that fits. Plus, my trans brake solenoid has plenty of clearance for my th-400. All I have to do is fab up the tranny crossmember that basically uses the Spohn th-400 crossmember I had with the ends cut off and some 5 inch channel for the exhaust to run through. Once I get the car assembled with the new engine,transmission and exhaust I'll post completed pictures.

The headers will work with 3 inch exhaust bolted up but my plan was to have road clearance so I had to do some custom work to get around the low hanging under the crossmember 3inch I had before and get the exhaust to run as straight as it can and it seems to be working perfectly.


There is a company in IL that sells oval exhaust cheaper than anyone else. I'll have roughly under $200.00 for the piping and 3.5" oval to 3.5" round transitions for the bullet mufflers. They sell exhaust systems for NASCAR so you need to look at the charts and figure what you need. They sell elbows too but only in "plane" not the hard ones that look like a "U". Website is not that user friendly and neither is the tech guy. There piping is also different sized(height and width) than everyone elses so other oval accessories won't work with their tubing.

www.boyceindustries.com is the exhaust piping company

Comp788

Post some pictures of your new frame rails. How did my idea help you out?

Some of us want pictures!!!

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I attempted to bend up the steel to fit but lying on your back isn't the greatest so I opted for the 2x3 tubing which made the job a little easier. Once fully assembled I'll post pictures because I can't get that great of pictures with my camera because it shoots way wide. Here is one I could get.

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Finally fabbed up the crossmember last night. It's made from 1x3 square tubing and connects to the 2x3 frame rails that I fabbed up. Just waiting for my tranny shield to come from CSR to assempble engine and tranny in the car. I'll have complete oval exhaust pic's up soon once engine is installed. I'll post a pic of the crossmember tonight. My camera phone pic stinks.

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ok, here is the crossmember finished and installed. I used part of the Spohn crosssmemebr I had to mount the transmission and torque arm. I figured I might as well use the pieces I have to save time. The cossmember is fabricated from 1x3 square tubing with plent of room for 4.5 inch oval if my car ever come close to using that type of exhaust. As you can see my exhaust will be tucked up next to the original transmission mount which will give a lot of clearance were many people scrape. I have not assmebled the car yet as I am waiting for the CSR tranny shield. Once that arrives I'll assemble the car entirely and post pic's if anyone is interested.

I apoligize for the brake line that is not re-routed yet and the filthy bottom side. I defintely need to clean that up this weekend. The original owner seven years ago never used valve cover gaskets and I only cleaned the front subframe and some parts of the bottom.

RacerDad916

Very cool. Has anyone used these with a stick? based on the price, This is the header I would choose. 1BADRZ28. the x-member looks good, I think I'll build mine like that. Keep the pics coming...

jstoltz

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was just wondering are these Stainless headers or mild steel?

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Mild steel headers

irocman88

wow. i might need to get some of those

jstoltz

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could they do stainless also? or did you talk with them about it?

Matt87GTA

Very nice Jim! Custom crossmembers are really the only way to go. I think those headers would work just fine with my T56 from the looks of that...

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price was right, when you conider the options or lack there of in that size of a header. I'll post up the painted and installed pics this weekend.

91camaross

i have the same headers for my sb2.2 heads do u have any pics of the exhaust

LilJayV10

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So they make 1 3/4 also? Do these hang any lower or higher than the hooker 2210's?

LilJayV10

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ttt