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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

So I bought some hedman 68460 longtube headers from summit the other day and just got them installed this afternoon. Took me about 4-5 hours to get them on. The pass. side probably took 20 minutes lol. All I did was removed the starter on the pass. side and dip stick of course. The drivers I had to do a little denting around the k-member and on the collector by the slave cylinder.

I know someone is going to complain about denting but it has to be done on a manual trans with these headers or you have to cut and weld an offset on the collector and I dont have a welder at the time...wish I did. I didn't install new motor mounts but idk how bad they really are. They may have helped around the k-member.

I am really glad I decided to do the headers, because I found loose sparkplugs, missing and loose header bolts, and lots of leaks. I was planning a tune up soon anyways. The previous owner just sucked lol. The headers are just hanging on right now till tomorrow. I might repaint them with header paint but idk yet because I would have to get the factory paint off. Also, the s-bends and y-collector come tomorrow. I am just hooking it up to the cat back for now till I can do dual all the way back.

I plan on wrapping the header around the slave cylinder even though some say it's bad for the header but idk what to do. Maybe I can wrap the slave cylinder instead idk. I know you want pics so I will get them tomorrow also.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

What type of heads are you using? I have the same set of the Hedmans i tried putting on when I put my zz4/vortec headed motor in..Engine was still on the stand and the last 2 bolt holes toward the firewall would not line up... I guess it was due to the Vortecs?
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

I have the l98 aluminum heads. Looks like I am going to cut the ball socket on the drivers side and extend it so it clears the slave cylinder better.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

So the ball & socket flange is what hits the slave? I was planning on a set of these headers and run the same trans. Do you have any pics of the install?
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Ya I will have pics soon. Well the collector itself hits so you can dent it and it's good, but the headers used to be a 3 bolt flange. Now they make them in a ball and socket which causes more problems when you go to hook up the socket end. Here is someone else who did it when they still made them with a flat flange.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/590890/3
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Yeah i'd love to see some pics. I have not yet seen long tubes on a street legal 3rd gen. I bet it's awesome... 4 hours sounds like a total beach though
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

4 hours plus today and tomorrow lol. That is mainly because any cutting is done by a hack saw......it sucks. Also, today has just been making the y pipe. Going to find a welder and band saw tomorrow.
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Ok here is a few pics. Look at that y pipe that was on there for the hooker shorties. Talk about restrictive and leaky. The shorties were leaking at the heads, before y, and after y at the cat back.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...7&l=d21f4054f3
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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

i ran the hedman 1 5/8 long tubes with s-bends, summit h-pipe and turn downs.
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

i have hedman longtubes and a tremec tko. i had to have the drivers side header extended down and then it cleared the slave cylinder. no dents. i'll post pics when i get home.
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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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you can see where it was lengthened.
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Well I have the headers on and driver's side from collector to y done. Just have to bolt up the clamps on the pass. side. The driver's side fit just great but the pass. was kinda a pain. It doesn't look every even but I'll maybe change it at a later time. Hopefully have it finished tomorrow and pics and video to come after. Oh and have to fix the temp. probe I broke. The hedman's kinda suck because they sit up higher and you have to get around the trans. crossmember.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Last year I ran the headman long tubes on my 85 TA with a true dual exhaust that I made. I had to put a small dent in the driver side header to make it fit by the K member without rubbing on it. Other than that I did the same thing, drop the starter and the pass side goes right in. (in my case I dont have a dipstick on that side of the engine) That was with an auto trans, this year I am installing a T56. Other than the cross member for my part of the exhuast, whats this I hear about the slave? I'm trying to picture exactly where it will be, does the header come back that far and at the same level as the slave? I hope I dont have to scrap most of my exhaust! I have a full day of cutting fitting and welding this exhaust. --true dual out the back with 2 mufflers, run in mostly the stock location, tucked up close.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Originally Posted by bigdavesiroc




you can see where it was lengthened.
i can see how you did the underside but why go into a single pipe when you could have kept them duals and run them on either side of the driveshaft?
but it looks like nice work.
am i going to run into problems with the brake slave or the starter, when i put my 2055's on a 305?
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Idk about him but I went into a single because I want to do dual all the way back and don't have the materials or money right now to do that.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

ended up single to try and save as much ground clearance as possible. my car already sits really low and the way i drive, one big bump would wipe out true duals. i hated to do it but that is the reason. hopefully when i get electric cutouts on, it won't be an issue anymore, performance wise.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

Ok lets try this again my internet messed up my last post and it was pretty long lol..

Headers are on and y-pipe is done. Still need to check for leaks and such. I started it up earlier and it sound awesome. The old exhaust was leaking right under my feet, check out the old y pipe. I am going to cut the a-arm on the drivers side because it hits some and I need to put some header wrap on the collector so I don't burn up the slave cylinder and fuel lines. Pass. side y is ok looking but drivers looks just how I wanted it too. Don't mind the rtv silicone all over the clamps. I wanted to make sure everything sealed. Right now I'm running the Hedman gaskets but will upgrade when I get a few more bucks to Percy's and locking bolts. Going to go 1 1/2 in because thats what was on it and some of the 1in don't tighten because the holes were slightly stripped out. Also put in new ngk tr-55 plugs. Will get new wires soon. Need to put in a hanger too so I don't have all that weight on the headers.

Does anyone know if I can get a new coolant sending unit that is in the pic? I can find factory ones but I don't think it is. I have an aftermarket one right now because the factory one didn't work...previous owners work. I might just buy a new gauge for the price. The old one broke when I hit it with the header and it popped out and I can't get it back in. Also would this be a mechanical gauge or electric? Thanks

Link to pics...
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...7&l=d21f4054f3
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Re: Got my Hedman longtubes on t-5!!

I went out and just bought a new temp gauge so that is fixed. Car sounds great and I can really tell it flows better and has more power. I will get a sound clip up sometime.
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