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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Here is how it sounds.

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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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Very nice work!! I see you got the IRS done, GOOD JOB! I only with the thread was still there

Im gonna mail you my car so you can do all that to it haha I wish.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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Very nice! Nice garage too!
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awesome setup man
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

very nice! do you have a pic showing ground clearance from the back with the irs? would love to see the finished pic on the ground
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

at first i was like "um, wont work on our cars buddy" then i realized who this was...
very nice exhaust setup there.
very clean.
now please post the rest of the pics from your build.
i really want to see how this finished up
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Sickest Iroc i've ever seen! How's she handle?
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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Nice! Just wish you hadn't deleted all your pics from your IRS install thread. That was tons of great info in there, despite all the haters that posted. Face it.....They were just jealous!
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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Go see (my 87 monster) c4 rear plus a better custom exhaust,and bumper to match.Take it to the next level.. FYI, you will have to change your rear shocks to coilovers,or you will burst them!!
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

Thats a very good setup. I have been thinking of doing that but was told the TQ arm is in the way. Mind if I ask how you did yours .......is the TQ still there ? factory , modified or aftermarket.
Closeups of how you did your T56 X-member and how the pipe is router around there would be great
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

Originally Posted by rapid rods
Go see (my 87 monster) c4 rear plus a better custom exhaust,and bumper to match.Take it to the next level.. FYI, you will have to change your rear shocks to coilovers,or you will burst them!!
I see you got 13 photos but no info on how you did it. did you have someone do the 89 IRS for you?
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Thats a very good setup. I have been thinking of doing that but was told the TQ arm is in the way. Mind if I ask how you did yours .......is the TQ still there ? factory , modified or aftermarket.
Closeups of how you did your T56 X-member and how the pipe is router around there would be great
Thanks


You didn't notice the rear end was different? He has a Corvette IRS, so there is no torque arm anymore.
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I didnt know the IRS deletes the TQ arm......hmmm....another good reason to go IRS....but looks like a lot of work but 5 stars on cool factor.
So when choosing a IRS what year is recommended ? what yr did you (1meanZ) use ?
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

that thing is amazing. nice job!
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

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I didnt know the IRS deletes the TQ arm......hmmm....another good reason to go IRS....but looks like a lot of work but 5 stars on cool factor.
So when choosing a IRS what year is recommended ? what yr did you (1meanZ) use ?
Its a pretty involved job. He basically rebuilt the entire rear "frame" of the car to fit that rear and apparently upset a bunch of people in the process when he did it.

Good thread though, I wish he'd left it up, it was an amazing project and I'm mad jealous.
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wow I never realized you got the irs done looks awesome
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

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very nice! do you have a pic showing ground clearance from the back with the irs? would love to see the finished pic on the ground
I'll have a few more pix coming in the next few days as I begin trying to drive it. I have a 4 wheel alignment scheduled for Saturday April 4th.

Originally Posted by Stangski09
Sickest Iroc i've ever seen! How's she handle?
No idea, but probably not very good. I have a LOT of dial in work to do. I cut 3/4 coil off the stock front springs to lower the front of the car, eventually I'll put weight jacks up front when I can afford it. I am waiting on the parts for my rear sway bar to come in and I'll finish that. It will take me a few auto-x events or a couple track outings to get the car set back up. I may need to change front spring rates, and adjust roll stiffness as well as dial in my shock settings. I doubt I'll be lucky enough for this to be a home run right away.

Originally Posted by Stephen
Nice! Just wish you hadn't deleted all your pics from your IRS install thread. That was tons of great info in there, despite all the haters that posted. Face it.....They were just jealous!
Well it was unfortunate that things turned out how they did. But I said I wasn't going to tolerate any BS and I was just sticking to my word. As the project finishes up I may post some final pix of how the swap has turned out.

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Go see (my 87 monster) c4 rear plus a better custom exhaust,and bumper to match.Take it to the next level.. FYI, you will have to change your rear shocks to coilovers,or you will burst them!!
I have looked high and low and I can't find pix of what you are talking about. I've also sent you 2 PMs of which you've not responded. Can someone else post a link to this car? Also FYI, I thought about doing center exhaust and decided I didn't want to cut up my storage well in the back. My battery is back there and that is where my tool box fits. I decided to go for simple, clean and understated, that is "next level" enough for me. I'd also LOVE an explanation of how I'm going to burst my shocks.... I have the appropriate bump stops in place to keep the shocks safe from bottoming, and since the shocks are longer that the C4 units and allow so much suspension droop that the knuckles hit the leaf spring, I put limit straps on the shocks as well. I'm looking forward to your explanation on this and a link to pix of your car.
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

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Well it was unfortunate that things turned out how they did. But I said I wasn't going to tolerate any BS and I was just sticking to my word. As the project finishes up I may post some final pix of how the swap has turned out.
You should have just told them to STFU and stay off your thread....and not responded to their criticism. There was far more people (like me) that thoroughly enjoyed watching the build than the 2 or 3 d!cks giving you ****.
Thats my opinion anyway.
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

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You didn't notice the rear end was different? He has a Corvette IRS, so there is no torque arm anymore.
I was searching the web for what kind of IRS that was. it seems to be a C4. Then I was surprised to see these ....
did some C4 come with TQ arms ?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

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I was searching the web for what kind of IRS that was. it seems to be a C4. Then I was surprised to see these ....
did some C4 come with TQ arms ?
No, that is called a C-beam. That bolts the tail of the transmission and the rear differential directly together. C4s don't have a transmission cross member, the whole drive train hangs on the 2 motor mounts, and the 2 "batwing" mounts on the rear diff. Since I didn't use the C-beam, I bolted the front of the differential to my roll bar.

Rapid Rods:

I finally found pix of your car but they aren't very educational because I can't see how you did anything. How are you mounting your rear sway bar? How wide are your rims in the back? Some other pix of the rear of the car under construction would be great so we can see how you mounted your coil overs, what you did with your fuel tank and wheel tubs, as well as the front of the differential mount.

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good looking job. I like the DO IT part the best tho. Good luck.
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is there a thread that explains how to do this corvette rear mod?
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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thats is awesome fab work!!!!!!!!! thats all i got to say
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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is there a thread that explains how to do this corvette rear mod?
There was a build thread until some crotch waffles came in and pissed me off. Criticism from people who a) couldn't read all my posts, b)couldn't figure out that the build was in progress and some things weren't perfect right away, c)people being disrespectful and insulting, d) and people who couldn't get their facts straight, ruined the thread and I deleted it all in frustration.

Once the car is drivable and I get my rear sway bar installed I may take some final installed pix and post a few more pix of how the job finished up. There has been a lot of interest in the project and I do appreciate the interest. I just got tired of staying up late posting pictures just to have my butt kicked by a bunch of rude internet bosses.
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The sad part is....Those of us that supported your efforts & looked forward to seeing how it all turned out & never once gave you any grief....Lost all the good info just because of a few losers who couldn't wait to see it finished & ruined it for the majority of readers.

I ask on behalf of the majority of TGO members....Please restore at least some pics & info. Please?

You get the last laugh on all the doubters, because you did it & did it successfully.
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its a great looking exhaust system but i'm more interested in the irs.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

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The sad part is....Those of us that supported your efforts & looked forward to seeing how it all turned out & never once gave you any grief....Lost all the good info just because of a few losers who couldn't wait to see it finished & ruined it for the majority of readers.

I ask on behalf of the majority of TGO members....Please restore at least some pics & info. Please?

You get the last laugh on all the doubters, because you did it & did it successfully.
i agree pi$$ on the haters!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

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The sad part is....Those of us that supported your efforts & looked forward to seeing how it all turned out & never once gave you any grief....Lost all the good info just because of a few losers who couldn't wait to see it finished & ruined it for the majority of readers.

I ask on behalf of the majority of TGO members....Please restore at least some pics & info. Please?

You get the last laugh on all the doubters, because you did it & did it successfully.
all the pics and info do still exist elsewhere in the interweb FYI
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There was a build thread until some crotch waffles came in and pissed me off. .
crotch waffles, had me rolling
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GREAT work!!

Go tame the Mustangs & be a mongoose to the Vipers!!
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ya i got ROH rims to
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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
crotch waffles, had me rolling
Me too!!
love the build!! great work dude!
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Very clean!! Love it! Great Job
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...uspension.html
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Great job 1MeanZ.

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Is this 1MeanZ from Z31Performance as well?

Anyway this setup looks killer. I wish I could feel how it rides.
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Is this 1MeanZ from Z31Performance as well?

Anyway this setup looks killer. I wish I could feel how it rides.

No, I'm not a Nissan fan so no Z31 for me.

Thanks. I'm going to start driving the car today hopefully so we'll see if anything falls off.
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Very Very Nice man, I found your step by step in the IRS, I like it alot. Very Nice work.

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Is this all pre made pipe? Or did you do the fab it?

Thanks
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crotch waffles. Funiest effin thing i've ever heard anyone called. That and a screen waffler (A guy who looks at other players screens while playing video games to get an edge). I am so using this term from now on. Just curious, where did you get the term from?
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what muffs are those?
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Is this all pre made pipe? Or did you do the fab it?

Thanks
It was made from mandrel bends I bought from Summit.

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crotch waffles. curious, where did you get the term from?
Beavis and Butthead I believe.

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what muffs are those?
Magnaflow. 4" OD 3" ID, can't remember the length, roughly 14".
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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Beavis and Butthead I believe.
No way, that makes it that much cooler.
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Wow, 1mean Z what can I say...AWESOME job..Love the garage, and flag too..the IRS is just way too much...I would like to see some more of that...How does it change the way the car performs on the road????? Update please, and who gives a rats a$$ about what anyone else thinks??? I is your car do what you like..I think you did some fabulous work to it...WTG........I only wish my own read end looked that good.lol.

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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

LOOKS great. love the IRS swap also. glad I saved all the pic's form the thread in the past.
Tell all the haters to F.O. Im sure there are 10x the amount of people who like what ya did.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:28 AM
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

Originally Posted by Gallileo60
Wow, 1mean Z what can I say...AWESOME job..Love the garage, and flag too..the IRS is just way too much...I would like to see some more of that...How does it change the way the car performs on the road????? Update please, and who gives a rats a$$ about what anyone else thinks??? I is your car do what you like..I think you did some fabulous work to it...WTG........I only wish my own read end looked that good.lol.
do a search on here for IRS swap thread. I posted lost of pix and info once the swap was done. Or you can check out GM High Tech Performance website or the April issue for coverage there as well.
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Thanks I will do that...Once again, fine job....
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

Hey sorry so late on this but I just found this from a different thread. Great fab work. I wish I had the kahonies to do this to mine. Thinking outside the box is what hot rodding is all about. Awesome.
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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

Not a hater, I love the Twin Traction Beam Ford 4x4 axle design... But for the rear, I would never consider IRS... A live rear axle seems like a generally smarter idea for most purposes and considering how many people here are EFI haters and prefer carbs, this is the last thing I'd expect... (For the record, I do LOVE carbs but EFI has it's points...)

What made you decide to go Independent Rear Suspension? IFS is bad enough... (At least on trucks) But I come from more of a 4x4 truck world so a street car viewpoint is something for me to discover more on I imagine.

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Re: new dual setup you may not have seen before

Originally Posted by Andrew James
Not a hater, I love the Twin Traction Beam Ford 4x4 axle design... But for the rear, I would never consider IRS... A live rear axle seems like a generally smarter idea for most purposes and considering how many people here are EFI haters and prefer carbs, this is the last thing I'd expect... (For the record, I do LOVE carbs but EFI has it's points...)

What made you decide to go Independent Rear Suspension? IFS is bad enough... (At least on trucks) But I come from more of a 4x4 truck world so a street car viewpoint is something for me to discover more on I imagine.
IRS isnt ideal for racing around corners. When's the last time you saw a purpose built race car that had a solid axle? F1 cars havent had solid rear axles in 50 years, if not more.

If you design a race car, you put in IRS these days. The solid axle is great for drag racing, and it can be good for cornering, but it's never going to be ideal. If NASCAR could run IRS, I bet they would.
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