92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Alright everyone, Im looking for some pics of people setups. Im going to be running true duals, longtube headers, 700R4, X pipe, and Im going to be running it over the axle with flowmaster 10 series.

I have done quite a bit of searching over the months but couldnt find any good pics or descriptions. Its going to be 3" exhaust all the way back as well. I might put cut outs after the x pipe as well.

Thanks for all you help
-Coltin

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Anybody? If you have pics of smiliar setup just dumped let me
know. Mainly I'm looking where to put the x pipe and how to run it with a
700R4. I have hedman long tubes that are on the car now

F-Body Demon

iTrader: (1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4ncv3i5F1k

He is using shortys, but this is a great example.

b1lk1

You won't get alot of pictures because not many people do this. Usually, you have to give up a good bit of ground clearance to run duals, especially with 3" pipes.

RS Chris

Did you try looking in the sticky section? Theres only about 6 or 7 pages worth of dual exhaust pictures. Bound to be something in there similar to what your looking for.

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Ive searched thru that sticky a bunch of times! It seems like everyone has manual tranny or is running shortys.

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

I just picked up some 3" spin tech bullets that Im puttin on her, Ive also got the 3" x pipe ready for purchase when I get back to the lake. Thinking about getting a drive shaft safety loop so if my drive shaft busts it wont hit the exhasut too

Dustytrix

iTrader: (3)

First thing you need to do is refab a crossmember, to get some clearance. Then put your x as soon as you straighten up the pipes after going past crossmember. I got 2-1/2 but they dump right now. I will get you some pictures when I get it back up on ramps if you want.

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Im going to dump mine for now because of money. How easy is it to modifiy the crossmember? I did a quick search and couoldnt really find out how to do it

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Guy backed out of the trade for the spin techs so I ended up getting some knock off flowmaster 10series from my exhaust shop

SixSeriesCSi

iTrader: (11)

I have Long Tubes and also would like to run duals, I also need to mount my O2 sensor still...

F-Body Demon

iTrader: (1)

Im telling you guys, the only thing your going to gain from the true dual setup over a prefabbed stock upgrade is the ability to say "Its got true duals". I just finished my true duals and I am not happy about my ground clearance at all. It was a huge mistake.

1MeanZ

iTrader: (9)

That is because what you are trying to do is not possible unless you like dragging your exhaust over every pebble in the road. There is NO way to run long tubes and 3" duals past a fat 700R4. You have to go under it and kiss your ground clearance goodbye. It's that simple.

If you have to ask how to modify your crossmember, this project is over your head.

built91Z28

Find me a pre fabed exhaust out of a catalog for long tubes. I have true duals on mine and except for my headers, have excellent ground clearance. Even when my car was on sportlines I had 8" of clearance between the ground and the X. I do have a stick though and custom made my torque arm setup and the trans crossmember.

I agree.

//<86TA>\\

iTrader: (14)

no you didnt, these cars dont even sit high enough in stock form to have 8" to the floor.

F-Body Demon

iTrader: (1)

Define Excellent, I have 2 inches of clearance below my exhaust. And would you honestly recommend a true dual to someone who may have little to any experience dealing with exhausts that they should attempt and do what very few skilled people can do?

SixSeriesCSi

iTrader: (11)

So what do you do if you have Long Tube Headers???

1MeanZ

iTrader: (9)

you deal with terrible ground clearance, plain and simple. If you need ground clearance, or if your car is lowered, the ONLY way to go for ground clearance is shorty headers and stock type exhaust routing. For high power applications the old SLP 1 3/4 are good as well as Dyno Don's 1 3/4 headers which you can still buy. Then run your choice of big single or true dual exhuast along the stock routing. It's that simple guys. You're NEVER going to have any ground clearance as long as you have to go under the trans and front frame rails. If you want good ground clearance and you are hell bent to run long tubes and 3" duals, this is the only other way to do it. I have INCHES more ground clearance than any other 3" dual setup on this site, and you can see that I did not go under the trans cross member. Conventional long tubes dump straight at the trans and frame rails. In a stock thirdgen you have no choice but to go under them, ruining your ground clearance. You just see about 1/3rd of the collector hanging down in the last pic, the rest of the exhaust dissapears. The front end is in that pic(1/8" off the bumpstops) I still had acceptable ground clearance, just had to watch out for roadkill. I've since installed new springs and raised the front just under an inch which will make a big difference.

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Yah unless you have the setup like above ^ you will have bad
ground clearance. But it is possible with long tubes. From the way this thread has ended
up going your all on your own for coming up with the best way to get ground clearence. I'll post up what I do with mine, w/o modding the crossmember. Oh and thanks for all the help with info on modding the crossmember, it's nice to know that I got people on here sayin that its over my head

1MeanZ

iTrader: (9)

Modding the crossmember is the easiest part of the whole job, so if you have to ask how to mod your cross member it IS over your head. You can do whatever you want, but I'd take the advice of people who have actually built their own exhausts. I'd strongly recommend you go back through the dual exhaust sticky and READ AGAIN what people are saying. You'll be lucky if you can drive over a pop can on it's side and not scrape with the setup your talking about, especially if you don't mod the cross member. Be sure to post up how many inches of ground clearance you have, and the distance from the ground to the top of your front fender lip (so we know how low the car is) when you get your setup finished.

rich5

If you were good at FAB work you could just cut the floor and reroute some fuel lines and what not.

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

I was more lookin for the ways ppl have modded theirs. Ik I could Mod it or fab up my own but just want to know the best way.

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Went with 2.5" pipe with 3" mufflers. Couldn't give up that much ground clearence. Will post pics up nxt week

1MeanZ

iTrader: (9)

...and how much ground clearance do you have?

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Havent had the opp to actually measure it, its been the least of my worries.
Here is a short video before the tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PdmM...e_gdata_player

92z28camarokid

iTrader: (4)

Here are some pics of the clearence, keep in mind that I do not have the ground effects on either.