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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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Patriot Longtubes

I dreaded starting a new thread due to how many are floating around but I could not find any pertaining these: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PTE-H8068-1/

Was wondering if anyone has installed them and ease of installation? Installing on a 305 paired to a T5...
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 08:09 AM
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Eh?
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Or go for the Hedmans? http://www.jegs.com/i/Hedman/500/68460/10002/-1
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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Re: Patriot Longtubes

Hedman 68460s don't fit with a T5.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:09 AM
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Re: Patriot Longtubes

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Hedman 68460s don't fit with a T5.
What does that leave then?
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 10:42 AM
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Hooker 2210, for one.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 03:07 PM
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Wow I wonder what the deal with those is. A shame they're not 1.75 primaries... I like my Hedmans a lot so I dont have a need for them. But if I had a T5 I might consider those. $350 for ceramic coated headers? Sounds like a good deal to me. Now it's just a matter of how well they fit. Doesn't take much to improve on teh Hookers in that regard... but the hookers are 1.75 primaries which is a nice plus.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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So Hooker 2210s are the only logical longtube...? Shorties Hooker brand as well?
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Patriot Longtubes

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So Hooker 2210s are the only logical longtube...? Shorties Hooker brand as well?
There are the very nice Stainless Works long tube headers from hawks... they're pricy though. The Hookers are very high quality headers and they're a lot more affordable, so it just doesnt make that much sense to pay so much for the Hawks headers.

Check out mw66nova's youtube video at 43 seconds for a Hedman long tube T5 car. It can be modded to work, and with long tubes you'll need to fab up an exhaust anyway. I'd do something along those lines. Matt said he wouldnt recommend his routing unless you have solid motor mounts, but if you are willing to do that you'd get AMAZING ground clearance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3JT7jvb2ms
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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I'm guessing shorties are pretty much direct fit like cast manifolds?
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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Re: Patriot Longtubes

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I'm guessing shorties are pretty much direct fit like cast manifolds?
Depends on what your definition of direct fit is. You will need a custom y-pipe or you need to buy shorties with a prefabricated y-pipe. There are several small things you will need to address. You may need new spark plug wires, have to figure out what to do with some of your serp belt braces, some bfh'ing here or there etc. It depends and it varies.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Re: Patriot Longtubes

Hmm. I installed shorties on my Bronco with no issue, these third-gens are bastards! Haha, thanks for your help so far.
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