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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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Oil pan fabrication...?

First of all, I couldn't figure the best place to put this post, so please move it if I chose wrong...

I don't know if I am skilled enough to fabricate the "kicked-out" sump, but I'm sure I can piece together a decent windage screen, trapdoor, and baffle set for my stock pan.

Couldn't I just make a windage tray with some steel screening and some long hinges(?) folded over and bolted together? Also, in the case of trap-doors, what is the best design?

I might be in a little over my head, so just tell me if I am...
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 04:57 AM
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i modified a stock pan once, it was a lot of work, way more in time and effort than i thought it was worth after i was done. all i did was cut the sump off and weld on new metal, didn't look as good as i wanted it to either.
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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its one of thoes things that seems pretty easy, but ends up being a lil harder then you would think it should be...
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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
its one of thoes things that seems pretty easy, but ends up being a lil harder then you would think it should be...
Especially when you can get them off eBay or race dedicated auctions like http://www.racersauction.com for cheap.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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But what about a cheap screen windage tray, or maybe some other backyard engineering? I don't have welding equip, so whatever I can bolt together from a hardware store is my limit...
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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Sounds like one of my spend $20 to save $.02 Where your putting this thing is definately not a place for "whatever I can bolt together from the hardware store" Just what a rotating assembly likes is a backed off nut/bolt/duct tape/bailing wire slinging around in the mix Depending on yr of your block you can get a wide sump oil pan with trap door from summit for $79 and windage trays are usually $20 so for less than $100 and zero thinking, I think this may be a perfect case in point to just purchase instead of making something. Been in that boat one too many times, as I'm sure alot of guys here will relate too:lala:
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by noc_81
But what about a cheap screen windage tray, or maybe some other backyard engineering? I don't have welding equip, so whatever I can bolt together from a hardware store is my limit...

you can make a crankshaft scraper by hand pretty easily.

thats suppost to be worth a couple hp.... lol.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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I've built a few pans. it helps to have an old block to bolt it to so it doesn't warp up when you weld it. I've put trap doors, sumps, and all kinds of baffles in. Without a good welder it's not worth the trouble.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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I've built a few pans. it helps to have an old block to bolt it to so it doesn't warp up when you weld it. I've put trap doors, sumps, and all kinds of baffles in. Without a good welder it's not worth the trouble.
Here's a stupid one for you. If the pan is bolted to the block, how do you weld....through the bores in the block?
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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Here's a stupid one for you. If the pan is bolted to the block, how do you weld....through the bores in the block?
from the OUTSIDE of the pan... you weld the seams on the outside.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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from the OUTSIDE of the pan... you weld the seams on the outside.
I thought he was including trap doors and baffles with that technique.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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I thought he was including trap doors and baffles with that technique.
thoes arnt close enough to the pan rails to worry about warpage.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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I warned ya that it was "stupid".
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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This is an idea I would like to look into. I havent found one for my v6 engine other then the fiero, which isnt the same.

Does anyone have pictures of the inside of a windage/trap door pan?
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