Flamein' Exhaust
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From: Cedar Grove, Wisconsin
Car: 91' Firebird Formula WS6
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Flamein' Exhaust
Does anyone know the best way to rig up the exhaust system to shoot flames. i know that you need spark plugs in the exhaust somewhere but what would be the best way to go about wireing this up. i think its a pretty cool affect, looks sweet on hot rods but it would look pretty tight on my FIREbird. can anyone tell me how to do this or refer me to somewhere that has step by step on how to do it? i know there are kits for this but i am cheap and would rather do it myself. Thanks!
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for the main parts you'll need a spark plug, coil, propane bottle and all the wire and tubing to put it in. do a search, i remember this subject coming up a few times before. and if you get it working, make sure not to melt your bumper
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if u run it real rich all you need is a spark plug and some metal line sorta like fishing line but metal not any metal wire something that wont melt. its for looks only no real performace in fact u lose some
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going real rich wouldn't do it.. some times people will pull the plug wires off 1 plug on each side and put a spark plug and coil on the exhaust tips, but it don't always make as much fire as they want to see and it hurts the motor. so don't do that
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stick a small propane bottle in the hatch with a purge solenoid on it. Run the line thtough the floor and into the exhaust where you have an exta coil mounted thats activated with a switch. Flip the switch and push the button and watch out.
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what will a purge solenoid cost? what exactly does that do? seems like the best way to do it. i am probably get tips that extend just past my bumper or point down to avoid melting my bumper. thanks
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There are tons of ways to do it. Here is what a friend and I have done on 3 different cars, and it worked well.
If your carb'd, get a manual choke cable, and hook it to the throttle/choke butterfly. And adjust it so when you pull it, you only have the butterfly on the carb about 1/8" or less and can keep the car running with the gas mashed.
Get 2 3"x18" exhaust tips from Pep Boys. They're cheap and work well. Make sure they stick out away from your bumper, or it will melt before you know it.
Drill holes for spark plugs in the tips. 1-4 on each side. Either weld in some nuts or get long enough plugs you can get a nut on it inside the tip, without blocking the spark.
Instead of a coil or 2, we used an old blower fan motor and a V8 HEI distributor. Weld the output shaft of the blower to the dist as straight as possiblt or make a connector that will hold them together. We opted for welding. Secure this assembly to a piece of wood or metal and attach it to the chassis or in the hatch.
Drill holes in the area where the assembly is, and run plug wires from the dist. to the plugs. Wire up the battery and ground of the dist. for power and wire the fan motor to a switch. You can wire it all together so when you hit the switch, it all turns on at the same time.
Now, when you start the car, let it run normal for a little and then close off the choke plate so it's barely running and turn on the switch to the fan/dist. Then you floor it and then turn the key off then back on before the motor completly dies. Or when it's choked off, you can make it work also, without flooring it. Just enough gas to keep it running. Of course, make sure your parked when you do this, and away from other cars.
There you have it. Flame throwers shooting 10-20' flames. I may have left something out, but I'm not sure. It's been a long time since we did this. Just remember, your engines plugs will end up getting fouled and you'll have to replace them A LOT.
But the simple way is do the rev and key method and have a friend at the back with a lighter or torch, lol. But that is a bit dangerous.
If your carb'd, get a manual choke cable, and hook it to the throttle/choke butterfly. And adjust it so when you pull it, you only have the butterfly on the carb about 1/8" or less and can keep the car running with the gas mashed.
Get 2 3"x18" exhaust tips from Pep Boys. They're cheap and work well. Make sure they stick out away from your bumper, or it will melt before you know it.
Drill holes for spark plugs in the tips. 1-4 on each side. Either weld in some nuts or get long enough plugs you can get a nut on it inside the tip, without blocking the spark.
Instead of a coil or 2, we used an old blower fan motor and a V8 HEI distributor. Weld the output shaft of the blower to the dist as straight as possiblt or make a connector that will hold them together. We opted for welding. Secure this assembly to a piece of wood or metal and attach it to the chassis or in the hatch.
Drill holes in the area where the assembly is, and run plug wires from the dist. to the plugs. Wire up the battery and ground of the dist. for power and wire the fan motor to a switch. You can wire it all together so when you hit the switch, it all turns on at the same time.
Now, when you start the car, let it run normal for a little and then close off the choke plate so it's barely running and turn on the switch to the fan/dist. Then you floor it and then turn the key off then back on before the motor completly dies. Or when it's choked off, you can make it work also, without flooring it. Just enough gas to keep it running. Of course, make sure your parked when you do this, and away from other cars.
There you have it. Flame throwers shooting 10-20' flames. I may have left something out, but I'm not sure. It's been a long time since we did this. Just remember, your engines plugs will end up getting fouled and you'll have to replace them A LOT.
But the simple way is do the rev and key method and have a friend at the back with a lighter or torch, lol. But that is a bit dangerous.
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If it was me, I'd rather buy a complete kit, 'cause "trying and failing" with this, may leave you with not much left than a pile of ash if you're not lucky the first time.
Didn't you learn not to play around with flames as a child? ;-)
Get a kit and follow instructions, that's cheap insurance.
Didn't you learn not to play around with flames as a child? ;-)
Get a kit and follow instructions, that's cheap insurance.
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I always thought it looked cool, my Dad used to have it on his Coronet back in the day but I didnt think it was legal now?
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Originally posted by Outlaw87
My Dad used to have it on his Coronet back in the day but I didnt think it was legal now?
My Dad used to have it on his Coronet back in the day but I didnt think it was legal now?
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This is only about the 50th time I've seen a post about flame throwers...Search!!! And have fun replacing bumpers!!!
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Like I said before....They will melt your bumper cover unless you have the exhuast coming out far enough, And then it looks gay if its stickin out too far....Try doing it on another car...Or do a search for the other 50 posts on it...
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Originally posted by SLOWFIVEOH
Like I said before....They will melt your bumper cover unless you have the exhuast coming out far enough, And then it looks gay if its stickin out too far....Try doing it on another car...Or do a search for the other 50 posts on it...
Like I said before....They will melt your bumper cover unless you have the exhuast coming out far enough, And then it looks gay if its stickin out too far....Try doing it on another car...Or do a search for the other 50 posts on it...
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umm....
yeah, considering the kit claims it shoots up to 20ft....how about the car behind you? Or for that matter, anything behind you!?!?!?
But hey, on the bright side of things, it's a hell of a way to one, get tail gaters off you ***, and two, melt the icey driveway before you back out to goto work in the winter!
:lala:
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But hey, on the bright side of things, it's a hell of a way to one, get tail gaters off you ***, and two, melt the icey driveway before you back out to goto work in the winter!
:lala: -G
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Originally posted by tornado
does anyone know if theres any kind of danger when trying to make flames shoot out ur exhaust??
does anyone know if theres any kind of danger when trying to make flames shoot out ur exhaust??
yes.
if you dont know what you're doing and you dont use the proper saftey devices, theres several bad things that can happen
besides the obvious of the car (or somthing behind it) catching on fire theres:
propane leaks
explosion hazards
fuel or propane loading up in the exhaust.. only to ignite inside it and blow out the muffler (or worse)
its not somthing to take lightly... its like nitrous was back in the 50s. the parts exist, but there are NO COMPLETE kits. every "kit" you see posted is just the sparker setup.
btw if you run a cat, you cant run fuel thru it to use a gasoline style setup.
theres more too it then some people here give thought to... its a good thing none of them are actually DOING it.
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20 ft???? I've seen full out custom made propane setups that dont shoot that far! If your thinking 20 ft out or a standard flame thrower setup, Good Luck!!
eh you can still do it with a cat, ive seen people argue back and forth about if it can be done. depends which method, thats the key. if you use the traditional method and kill 2 cyls for a second allowing raw fuel to travel thru exhaust then yeah, it might be harder with a cat. but if you use the propane method a cat wont interfere at all.
in any event its a pretty big gamble for something like this.
i always wondered about a muffler exploding too.
but exhaust fumes tend to put out fire....lol. thats how i never saw how these kits worked. i mean back in the day people used to run a hose from the exhaust of an engine into the gas tank of another car so that they could weld it (if it had a hole in it)
in any event its a pretty big gamble for something like this.
i always wondered about a muffler exploding too.
but exhaust fumes tend to put out fire....lol. thats how i never saw how these kits worked. i mean back in the day people used to run a hose from the exhaust of an engine into the gas tank of another car so that they could weld it (if it had a hole in it)
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Originally posted by treeohfive
eh you can still do it with a cat, ive seen people argue back and forth about if it can be done. depends which method, thats the key. if you use the traditional method and kill 2 cyls for a second allowing raw fuel to travel thru exhaust then yeah, it might be harder with a cat. but if you use the propane method a cat wont interfere at all.
eh you can still do it with a cat, ive seen people argue back and forth about if it can be done. depends which method, thats the key. if you use the traditional method and kill 2 cyls for a second allowing raw fuel to travel thru exhaust then yeah, it might be harder with a cat. but if you use the propane method a cat wont interfere at all.
two pet peeves in one. ugh.
fuggin read it again.
and again
and if you dont understand what im quoting or why im quoting it, then you shouldnt play with fire anyway..
Originally posted by MrDude_1
btw if you run a cat, you cant run fuel thru it to use a gasoline style setup.
btw if you run a cat, you cant run fuel thru it to use a gasoline style setup.
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i was at james dean fest and they had a flame thrower contest and this one car made his paint on his trunk bubble....but then like 10 minutes later it was fine.......is that what normal paint will do when it cools back down or do u think this person used some special paint?
uhm mr? did you just get on my *** for stating a fact? i was just saying i hate hearing people bicker back and forth if it can be done or not, and the truth is, it CAN be done....just depends which method you use...there are like 50 different ways heh....
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