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Old 05-09-2004, 01:16 PM
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Does anyone see a plus to boxing in the tq arm or the panrod arm? What thinkness should be used? Like 1/8th inch or so? I would love to see some pics if anyone has done this!!!

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Old 05-10-2004, 12:38 AM
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I boxed my LCA's and panhard bar, i noticed a diff on takeoff, with the lca's boxed, dont know bout the panhard bar tho, and never done a torque arm.

Kevin

also i used 1/4 , but didnt wanna go out and get something else, yeah i think 1/8 is prob still overkill.
Old 05-10-2004, 01:31 AM
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I have already done my LCA's. I noticed a good amount of traction difference. I am working on building LCA relocation brackets too.

I just didnt understand what the pan rod arm does and didnt know if the tq. arm was flexing enough to cause traction issues.


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Old 05-10-2004, 12:26 PM
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Car: 1986 Firebird
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The panhard rod (GM calls it a "track bar") keeps the axle centered under the car. Without it, the axle would sway to the left and right - had that happen once, bolt fell out of the panhard rod at the passenger side's bracket! Luckily I was just backing into my driveway. I'd assume (uh oh) that boxing it would primarily help out the car around corners, and only a little bit for a 1/4 mile launch.

If you try the torque arm, let us know how it goes! Did you upgrade the torque arm bushing yet? I noticed a big improvement when I put the ES polyurethane bushing in- the car seemed more sturdy even when I was just going straight!

How'd you guys handle the "rust possibility" when you boxed the rear lca's? I haven't done mine yet b/c I don't want water/whatever to get trapped inside, which would cause the lca's to rust away from the inside-out. Know what I mean?
Old 05-10-2004, 01:51 PM
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ummmmmm, I havent worried about the rust issue. I didnt even primer them after I welded them. The car has been sitting since last season in my back yead. (ooopppppsss!) I have a second set if they rust to bad. I guess coat them real good. I left about 3/16 of a inch on eash end undone. I dont know if you could get some primer in there or just keep some kinda wd 40 or something on them.

I am gonna replace the tq arm bushing and my LCA bushing when I build my relocation brackets. I am thinking of a way to mount the tq arm solid. I dont know if it would hurt anything by elem. the bushing. I would reimbrace the crossmember heavily.


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Old 05-10-2004, 05:12 PM
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Heres my panhard bar brace boxed with 1/8 flat steel.Didnt bother with the torque arm though,got an edelbrock there.

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84 1LE did u notice an increase in torque or takeoff?
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With the edelbrock torque arm yes,slightly though.As for the panhard bar brace.I just did that for xtra rigidity.I figured it wouldnt hurt any.Since its still a open design & boxing it just makes it stronger.Although the torque arm,brace,panhard bar +LCAs were all done several months/years apart.
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i welded 2 boxed pieces of steel on the inner par of my TQ arm. can't tell you a difference though since the car isn't driving yet. has to do something with all the power i'm making. ran out of money and couldn't buy the BMR cromoly arm
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