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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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has anyone noticed the sheet metal torque arm welded to the cast iron centersection??? F the shaft the rear joint will break and hopefully fall out, that pumpkin is going to go thru the floor then face plant into the road, that tiny welder isn't going to do too well on cast iron.

i gave you the benefit of the doubt until you decided rear brakes weren't worth it, if you don't understand the dual master cylinder i'm sure you need to go to rear axel 101.

Trimmed the needle bearings one by one???? For your sake i hope your on crack, you can always quit the crack!
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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im just trying to work with the stuff ive got here.

If that driveshaft wont work, ill find another one and do it another way.

All you guys can do is making fun of me, im learning here guys, why didnt you guys tell me about shortening that d/s at the orginal weld before?
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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ttt

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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by ZBRA
That shaft is ruined. The proper way to shorten it would have been to cut (grind) through the factory weld on either end and slide the end yoke out of the shaft. You can then cut off however much you need to remove from the shaft in one cut. Slide the end yoke back in the shortened shaft, but it on a balancer, make sure it's straight, and weld it back on. Then balance it.
Too late now huh?

Cool forum...giving tips like that afterwards...
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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Too late now huh?

Cool forum...giving tips like that afterwards...

Usually people put a little research into what it takes to shorten a driveshaft in the first place, we know to take it somewhere since its a professional ordeal, why bother giving you a bunch of tips when the end result was always known to be a pile of useless trash ? good luck finding a replacement torque arm after this monstrosity blows up all over the road.

Next you'll be adapting a solid front drive axle so you can have 4 wheel drive.

After that i predict a lift kit and 38" tires....
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by rolling-robert

All you guys can do is making fun of me, im learning here guys, why didnt you guys tell me about shortening that d/s at the orginal weld before?
You never asked. Typically it's assumed that you have the experience and knowledge required when taking on a project of this magnitude. Nothing against you or anything, it's great to take on new projects like this. But it's better to do the research and get the practice in before you tear into it, not wait till after you've done it. Maybe the guys are being harsh, but you need to understand that this is a MAJOR safety concern. If that driveshaft snaps, you are gonna polevault the car into something or someone. If you don't hook up the brakes, you will have 40% less braking power and much more brake fade. If the torque arm mount brakes, you will have nothing left but the shocks and control arms left to hold the rear in place. You will loose control and wreck the car.

I can guarantee everyone in this forum has made dumb mistakes, we just don't post up about them

Take their advice and get the driveshaft professionally made, get the correct hybrid U-Joint made for the yoke, have a professional make sure your welds are solid. Then you will have a great DIY project that you can be proud of, and confident in. There is nothing wrong with asking for a little help when you need it. Thats how you learn

Good luck, and I hope you make the right choice here.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by rolling-robert
Too late now huh?

Cool forum...giving tips like that afterwards...
it's damn hard to look forward at all the stupid things you or someone might do and tell them not to do it. a much more sucessful method is for the person in a position to do something stupid to either use the search function or to ask a question so we don't have to anticapate all the stupid move you could make.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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Too late now huh?

Cool forum...giving tips like that afterwards...
I do beleive the best advice was given in the 2nd reply.

That's gonna be a disaster
Like ede said, there is no way ANYONE could have predicted you were going to attempt to hack your driveshaft apart. Our minds don't think that way. Sometimes we can forsee that someone is going to do something stupid, but this, this is in a league of its own, when it comes to the 'I can't beleive he actualy did that' type of thing. Please, stop now, you are seriously going to hurt yourself or someone else attempting to run parts on your car like this. Maybe start small, I bet you could sell your new wheels, and get a K&N.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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Let me get this right. You post horrific pictures of hacking like I have never seen before. Then you bitch because no one here told you NOT to do it that way, only showing what you did after the fact?? You have got to be kidding me..

Worst post ever award.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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In the words of Larry the Cable Guy, "Heres your sign!"
Actually it's Bill Engwald. Larry says "git er done"
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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the other pic, i had to make those metal caps a bit shorter to fit the dodge yoke, had to shorten all those tiny needle bearings to one by one

all i have to do now is to connect the driveshaft and shocks and tighten some bolts here and there.

WISH ME LUCK!
that is so funny, i missed the modified, or should i say trashed, u joint
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Yes, I apologize, my ESP was not working when I first came across your thread. I only got the general feeling of impending doom and voted accordingly.
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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I think that his only saving grace will be that it won't ever last long enough to get up to highway speed. He also just welded 4 bolts on the rear end yoke to bolt the driveline to. It will come apart and will probably do so in the drive way.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Well, i drove the car!

i must say i was a bit scared.

the car doesnt pull to 1 side, so i assume the axle is straight under the car.

I do feel some vibration, probably from the driveshaft i messed up ( )

Ill find another driveshaft and let it prof. done.

I gave it a good beating on a parking spot with no traffic.

The tq-arm holds fine, but i must say that i dont have a posi and no sticky tires, i use 225 tires.

Im sure it won't hold if use a posi or some slicks.

Brakes work to now, all 4 of them.

i drove it for about 2 hours on the road, but this car is only for 1/8th mile races, so no high speeding.

I use a trailer for getting this car to and from the track.

I use the blue camaro as daily driver (this car has no stupid modifications )

the white one is for those 1/8th mile races and some fooling around, so no highway use.

But i will replace the tq-arm with something better, and that drive-shaft will be replaced to, I PROMISE!
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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I got a stock steel driveshaft that came out of a 91, works perfect, you could have it for $35 + shipping. Just takign space.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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No way in hell that thing stayed together at highway speeds.

Lets see some pictures of it installed in the car.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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DID I SAY I USED IT ON THE HIGHWAY???

nooooooooooooooo

R E A D before you act like a judge, thank you

pasky: thanks for the offer but shipping is pretty expensive, so i better find one here.

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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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No way in hell that thing stayed together at highway speeds.

Lets see some pictures of it installed in the car.
+


btw: i can take pics whatever i want but im sure you would say its photoshopped or not driven at all.

so ill take a pic with the installed axle, and ill let a friend make a pic if i make a burnout, ok?

If you'r still not convinced then i give up.
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 02:02 AM
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DID I SAY I USED IT ON THE HIGHWAY???

nooooooooooooooo

R E A D before you act like a judge, thank you

pasky: thanks for the offer but shipping is pretty expensive, so i better find one here.
Alrighty, shipping is like 15 bucks . Just need to get red of this thing.
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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so 35 + 15, if you want to ship it to me its okay, but i live in europe.

im willing to pay 50 bucks for the shaft.
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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i'd like to see pics, just to see what you got going on under there.
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 10:40 AM
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This thread is hilarious... I was laughing...and chuckling...and then BAM..the driveshaft.

Thanks for the wonderful laugh...and I'm just as impressed the car is driving.


rolling-robert: man you learn to do **** right and you can do anything... you've got *****.

didn't even think that the guy would shorten his own driveshaft!!! hahaha!!!
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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All I can say about this thread is WOW I didnt believe what I was reading I had to keep looking at the person that was posting I could have sworn it was going to be some one else ....LOL

Like therc well you know who i mean...

But seriously I cant believe you would even consider taking this monstrosity down the road to go to a parking lot much less down a drag strip .......if your strip has any kind of sense at all when they peek under your car they will laugh you out of the track ...
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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But the fact is: i proved it can be done.

Although i wouldn't take this car to make any long trips.

And the driveshaft is not a keeper, you guys were right about that.

find myself a new driveshaft and shop to shorten it quick.

i consider this topic closed and i want to thank the few ppl who believed in this project and also the ppl who gave there honost opinion.

If anything changes ill let you know
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by rolling-robert
But the fact is: i proved it can be done.

Although i wouldn't take this car to make any long trips.

And the driveshaft is not a keeper, you guys were right about that.

find myself a new driveshaft and shop to shorten it quick.

i consider this topic closed and i want to thank the few ppl who believed in this project and also the ppl who gave there honost opinion.

If anything changes ill let you know
no everyone knew it could be done, its been done a 1000 times before, there are tons of cars with dana rears in them that didnt belong there originally.

the only thing you proved is that you could do it entirely the wrong way, take the easy way out instead of the correct path, and endanger other people.

your name should be changed to "dead dismembered robert" cause thats what your gonna be

the fact that you have accomplished this means only one thing.....

Natural selection is alive and well......godspeed on your way to oblivion
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Natural selection is alive and well
...back to the Darwin Awards.....and this guy works at a machine shop!!!!!
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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...back to the Darwin Awards.....and this guy works at a machine shop!!!!!
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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after re-reading this thread:https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=265733

I change my opinion completely. You are a liar, and I don't buy a word of what you've said here. Especially after you went back FOUR MONTHS later to edit out all the lies and stupid crap you posted in there

I guess I should have put 2 and 2 together, but that post was from 2 months ago :shrug:

Oh well, that's the last time I try and stick up for someone on these boards without knowing them personally.
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Its just sad honestly very very sad....

maybe one day he will grow up and realize lying isnt a way to make friends ....
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Wow, after reading this other post of Rolling Robert I'm stunned... But then again this is something I've seen before. It's not uncommon for members of various boards to make an alias and just post crap. For amusement and fun I guess, mostly for themselves, but there is a good laugh or two for us others aswell.

I went all "MAN has this guy got *****, welding a driveshaft! He must know his ****!" Guess not... LOL

I especially enjoyed it when he stated that one of the wheels where even with the fender, and the other went outside...LOL It's like it must be someone kidding around...or maybe not.

A welded shaft could be balanced I guess, but it should be done by pro's.

I came over this thread after going through therckid's latest ones. Speaking of which, hasn't therckid managed to get his car painted? Havent seen anything about it on the boards, but you can see it on his cardomain (or similar) site...

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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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therckid hasnt gotten his car painted those are just older pics before he screwed it up .....
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by rolling-robert
But the fact is: i proved it can be done.


Lets see a video of this disaster in action.

Not in a parking lot, but cruising down the road at about 60 mph.

Wear a helmet, you're gonna need it!!
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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therckid hasnt gotten his car painted those are just older pics before he screwed it up .....

if i may defend myself, i got the car painted in october, or novermber of 2003. That was actually right when i took possesion of the car. The car wasn't yet in my name but it was mine.

Since then i got rear ended, and other little damages. They will be fixed soon enough.

But i have done many things to this car and paint has yet to be the most expensive, somewhere around $800....
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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I’ve been wondering how long it would take before someone noticed there was something wrong here. Take a look at the dates between posts and pics. This guy would have to have literally NOTHING else to do to get this done over the time that he claims to have done it (either that or he is a pro with more tools and this is what he’s doing with his time, of course, no pro would do THIS). Well, I suppose that he could be an unemployed kid with access to too much crap, but that’s doubtful.

Then add that he made another thread just to link people to this one so more people would see it, while he’s complaining about our reaction to his “work.’
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by rolling-robert
so 35 + 15, if you want to ship it to me its okay, but i live in europe.

im willing to pay 50 bucks for the shaft.
give me an address and i'll get a quote.
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by pasky
give me an address and i'll get a quote.
Watch out pasky, he'll probably send some monopoly money your way
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:56 AM
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sure guys whatever...

i work every night on my car(s) after work and in the weekends.

You can do a lot in 1 day.
What you believe and not is up to you.

About paying Pasky for the shaft.
I never scammed someone, and i think its very sad to say something like this about someone, with totally no reason.

PASKY:ill pm you my adress, thanks in advance.
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