omnipotentgoku

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I know their are folks on here who own shops, and do fiberglass molding and such. I want to know if it would be possible to fabricate this.

(note, not asking about what it is, thats in another thread, just want to know what it would take to have it done)



That is about the hottest camaro body kit i've seen outside stock. Damn it, I wish I had more pictures of this.

FastElectrics

I'd say .. sure it could be fabricated.. anything is posible. Looking at it .. my guess would be fiberglass (best choice). the shape looks pretty simple overall.. Or perhaps it could be made out of the same plastic. But the modifications to the fenders might require a total replacement of the fender... Not sure.. unless it just follows the same line as the factory GFX..

67 Camaro 88

another pic

Cooter77

Kinda has a NASCAR look..... Might help at speed of 150+....
I like it.....

BaddAzzRS

Does anyone know what company made that kit to begin with or how long ago it was in production? Looks like a clean design and flows well with the car.

omnipotentgoku

iTrader: (1)

I am thinking it was an OEM prototype unfortunately. aftermarket rarely looks that good.

JPrevost

Overhang, what overhang?!?! OOOHHHH THAT overhang, yeah officer there is some weight over the rear tires... j/k
Actually that looks really similar to the prototype 3rd gen. Not at my computer or I'd see if I could host the picture.

BaddAzzRS

Figures it was a factory prototype . Does look too good to be aftermarket. Too bad, cuz it flows better than any other attempt at ground effects Ive seen for our cars. Kinda reminds me of the Monte Carlo SS nose.

83 Crossfire TA

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Looks like a Fiero GT nose to me

camarors8992

if you have the $$$ you can take that picture to someone who is good with fiberglass and he may be able to create that for you.

Trevor K

A guy on here made himself the Z28 ground effects portion on his bumper from scratch, so I'd assume that this wouldn't be difficult at all.

91blkta

To make different front clips and ground effects they start with molding clay and stick it right on the car. they shape and shape till everything looks right and even. "thats the talent" Then they make forms from the clay stuck to the car. If anyone watched foose customize the cadi's on rides they show exactly how they do it. It is a art you have to be a good. but once the molds are made you can make as many as you want. From my understanding of the process the molds is the hardest and most time consuming part of the processes, But correct me if I am wrong.

JB97C5

The hardest part is coming up with enough of the cash for someone to go through the trouble of making the molds!!!

1983Fbody

I think using styrofoam and a bread knife for shaping the nose piece would be easiest way to go. Here's some pics of my fiberglassed nose.. I lowered about an inch, closed the fender vents, and made the angles straighter.

ErG0

So what does the finished product look like?

WILL85IROC

yeah, i wanna see this!

bnoon

I notice a headlight project going on too...

omnipotentgoku

iTrader: (1)

I'd like to see the progress on that one as well, please post it ASAP.

1983Fbody

Here's some progress..



Thinking about making the bumper opening thinner and wider, less like a "fish mouth".

Edit- lights are just sitting on there, once molded in and with turn signals should fit with the body lines better.

AM91Camaro_RS

wow....that's crazy! looks pretty good though. what are those headlights from? that's not gonna look like a firebird anymore!!

1983Fbody

'03 and newer sunfire. Thanks to all that have showed interest in this!

AM91Camaro_RS

i just noticed in the first pics that the date shows jan. 1, 1999. if that's right, is the last pic as far as you've gotten? or are there newer pics?? i'm really interested in this cause i like seeing rare, custom stuff. i like making it too!

1983Fbody

It's all been done in the last month or so, the last pic I posted with the headlights is the most recent taken yesterday. I've got about a month to finish the car before power tour!!

1983Fbody

A little update-

Picked up a few gallons of poly resin, it was on sale after rebate ended up being 18bux a gallon from advance auto. I now have more than enough to finish the hood, fenders, and whatever else I decide to do in the future (door skins?).

Ordered some fiberglass materials today from www.uscomposites.com . Chopped strand mat for strengthening the underside of my hood "skin" and fenders (if I have time to make the fenders before power tour!).

Also ordered some sanding aid to add to the top layer of resin. This stuff is actually hollow glass beads that *should* turn the resin into a filler type material like bondo. The type of work I'm doing is male molds, female molds would be a lot cleaner and probably wouldn't need this filler material to end up with a flat, smooth finish.

I couldn't resist ordering a few yards of carbon fiber clotch to play with. Probably end up using it for the fenders and paint over them. I do like the look of carbon fiber, I don't think I'm experienced enough to end up with a good enough finish for cosmetic use though. Besides, that stuff belongs on four bangers. I should probably use epoxy for the CF for the added strength and that's what I reccommend that others do. I'll see how they turn out using the poly resin I've been using with the fiberglass though.

I'll post again with pic's when I have more work done.

KiLLJ0Y

iTrader: (1)

are you kidding? hot?? that damn camaro looks like it has "Downs Syndrome"... might as well call it "Corkey"




(Corkey, from Life Goes On)

camarors8992

i think that looks very aggressive looking. if you make the opening in the front end a little larger and then put some chrome mesh in there I think it would look absolutly awsome.

fireturd350

iTrader: (8)

You definitely got some work left getting everything aligned up right. Keep us updated!

BTW, I'm taking it you're not planning on putting the honey comb enforcement back inside the bumper or you plan on putting a mesh over the slot?

I think the pissed off fish look could grow on me once it's completely done and painted. Keep working!

icarus402001

I was gonna say female fish .

Xophertony

it's a firebird. not a camaro. perhaps we should call you corkey.

i would not want my bird to look like that but . i have nothing but respect for the amount of effort (not to mention *****) of you trying somthing like that. it will looka awsome when it is done, i can't wait.


EDIT
i just realised KiLLJ0Y was talking about the camaro the post is about, not the firebird who hijacked it.

Alexcoqui

Funny how it happened! I had to go up to see what you ment. I too had forgotten about the camaro.

fireturd350

iTrader: (8)

LOL, I was going to say something a long time ago about thread hijacking but decided not to since the pictures examples of how to modify the nose.

Xophertony

yeah, i caught myself on the re-read.

KiLLJ0Y

iTrader: (1)

yeaaaaaaaaaaah... damn it!!!

1983Fbody

The front bumper cover is looking pretty good, a few thin spots after smoothing it down with the grinder, all the high spots were ground flat making the material pretty thin in some spots. I'll have to reinforce those from the back side before I do any more sanding on it. Started making the fenders with carbon fiber and the first one turned out niiiice, It'll be a shame to sand it and throw paint over it! The hood bracing is giving me problems, can't seem to make it stiff, light, AND straight enough for paint. I might scrap my first attempt and start another hood, this whole thing has been a learning experience and I'm sure I could get a better piece the second time around.

*sorry on hijacking the thread here, I'll try and keep it related to the fiberglass nose I'm building. I will post up a new thread when the whole project is finished and drop a link, that won't be for a couple of weeks though until I can get back over here to use the computer again.

-Ben

Teetoe_Jones

How many of you are really interested in a good looking body kit for the 3rd gen Camaros?
Reason I ask is I make body kits for 1st gen Camaros, and I own a 92 that I'd really like to modify.
To those wondering how the OEM's do a body kit they start with a concept drawing. Here is my 68 Camaro concept drawing:

My artist did multiple angles, and references for the clay modeling portion, here are a few samples:



At this point we take the car to a studio, where it is placed on a flate plate, leveled, and wood/foam are put around the car for the application of the clay:

Then we fine tune the clay, and produce molds directly from it:

The next step is to test fit the first molded part (usually in fiberglass) to the car:

After we sand, and mold the first kit to the car, we make a production mold from the fiberglass kit, to produce a final part that requires no sanding, or bondo to be painted. We then make a complete kit in carbon fiber, primer it, and send it off to the client.
Do you guys have an interest in this sort of thing?

Tyler

camarors8992

that looks sweet but how about pictures of it complete

84RIceEater

WHY...WHY...WHY.... Just keep it normal......WHY.......... i thought i just hit a link to www.hondas-are-soo-gay-because-of-this.com
just leave that poor camaro alone.

84RIceEater

looks like thos datson 540's...

Teetoe_Jones

Too late to it leave alone.
The entire car is built on a tube chassis, with a C5 drivetrain, and T56 transaxle. All but the roof and rear 1/4's are carbon fiber, and this car will hit well over the 170 mph mark. The body kit is more for downforce than looks.
Hondas can't back up ****. My cars can. HOT ROD magazine sure that it was sweet when they put it in their 20 hottest project car article not too long ago.
Anyways, finished body kit pic looks much like the version you see in the pics- primered. It is not mounted on the car at current, plus the car is in Cali getting body work done, and the body kit is in my shop here in Vegas.
Feel free to click on my sig to go to my website where you can see the build up of the chassis, as well as a bunch more of the body kit process.
Tyler

omnipotentgoku

iTrader: (1)

No offense...but to hell with what this guy says... that looks pretty smooth and i'd like to see it finished. Better yet I wonder how interested in fabricating something like the original post you would be ?( IROC II)

bnoon

Teetoe_Jones, are you on pro-touring.com forums as well? Seems like I've seen your car somewhere before, not in Hot Rod. Looks HOT!!!

Of course I'd be interested in a version of that for TA's and Camaros. It seems all of the body kits that were ever made for 3rd gens look like they were inspired by Batman crossed with a Testarossa. As long as the body kit looks something more like yours, vs. a Bat-arossa, I'd be tempted to buy one...

Normal is boring, stock is boring. Those who say "if it isn't broke don't fix it" just don't get it. If we wanted stock, then you wouldn't be on the Fabrication forum, you'd be on the Look How Pretty My Stock Car Is forum.

RedLineByrd

I love bodykits, but not when they are too over done. That body kit looks sweet, and I too would love finalized pics. If you ever decided to make a kit for the Firebird crowd, I'll be saving my pennies!

Diabolical

wow that concept drawing is awesome. personally, i hate rear bumpers like that, but the rest of the kit is awesome. a third gen kit might be tough to come up with since the stock form goes so well with the car. maybe if you have a concept drawing for that. however, if you produce a nice, tastefully done concept, you will get a ton of people saying that is awesome, i want one, sign me up, etc. then when you decide to actual go forward with production and you ask for deposits, everyone will disappear and you'll be left with like 3 people actually willing to put their money down.

Xophertony

wow. so, perhapse not everyone thinks hondas look "gay" with body kits. i personaly have seen three "import tuner" style cars that looked halfway respectable. one of witch i would even be seen driving.

secondly, while i do prefer the stock look, as you clearly do as well, i browse this board to support and provide CONSTRUCTIVE critisisms on others projects in hopes of bettering them. comments like yours are destructive and uncalled for. perhaps you would feel more at home posting on a forum like this one:http://usuck.com/ (no joke it's a real site!)

SEE Auto Detailing and Appearence

84RIceEater

i do admire the work, i just dont like the styling.. (IMO) Thats all i am saying.


"The entire car is built on a tube chassis, with a C5 drivetrain, and T56 transaxle. All but the roof and rear 1/4's are carbon fiber, and this car will hit well over the 170 mph mark. The body kit is more for downforce than looks. "

I love that. .. .

i just rather see it stock body.. i did not mean to sound like a @$$ when i sayed that, i apolize.

bnoon

Lots of people in there posting their non-stock vehicles too, but I realize that it's just a smart *** comment in reply to my smart assed comment.

Back on topic: Make us some respectable body kits Teetoe!!!

ErG0

It looks absolutely amazing...

Thanks for posting that.
So what would you have in mind for a kit?
Can you do a drawing?

ErG0

Project 50/50 looks amazing.
I have an 88 and was wanting to put on a 91-92 kit just cause the front end looks so much better.

So please let us know.

Dewey316

Teetoe_Jones -- I've been following the 50/50 project on corner-carvers for years!

I would love to see a well made, and functional body kit made. I have plans to some composite work to my car, but between other projects, I just have not had the time nor money to get started.

Xophertony

yeah, i saw an opportunity to throw a zinger...