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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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BIGGER is better! ;)

This is off of a mitsu turbo picup and it's as Donald Trump would say..... UUUGE!!
I did some quick fabrication and voila it slid right into place.
This has to give atleast a couple extra hp compared to the stock filter. Anybody dare to guess how much and what do you think of it? It's not that pretty but keep in mind it only cost me like 10 bucks the whole thing
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Here's another pic.....
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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yet another.....
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Thats pretty friggin big. Any gains? of course for $10
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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Thats pretty friggin big. Any gains? of course for $10
I'm not sure.... it certainly feels like it.... but don't know if that's just suggestive thinking
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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Um, Ok, you had an SLP cold air (judging from the ducting), you got rid of it and replaced it with a filter that is able to suck hot, underhood air in… I think at one point I took K&N’s equation and found that the stock size filter was good for something like 450hp, so unless you’re making significantly more then that, you probably lost power by sucking in the warm air now.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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Um, Ok, you had an SLP cold air (judging from the ducting), you got rid of it and replaced it with a filter that is able to suck hot, underhood air in… I think at one point I took K&N’s equation and found that the stock size filter was good for something like 450hp, so unless you’re making significantly more then that, you probably lost power by sucking in the warm air now.
I seem to be having a case of Godzilla..... where bigger seems to not be better after all
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
Um, Ok, you had an SLP cold air (judging from the ducting), you got rid of it and replaced it with a filter that is able to suck hot, underhood air in… I think at one point I took K&N’s equation and found that the stock size filter was good for something like 450hp, so unless you’re making significantly more then that, you probably lost power by sucking in the warm air now.

I must be missing something. that ducting is the same as my stock. unless you guys know he had it previously.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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I certainly haven't done any mods to the ducting. I think it's stock MAF.... but don't know if the previous owner has done anything to it.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 04:47 AM
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The only reason isaid that was because somone said he could tell by the ducting thta you had an SLP cold air intake,but that is stock.
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Crappy picture, but this is the stock intake assembly:
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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and this is an SLP cold air assembly (ignore the turbo sitting behind it):
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
and this is an SLP cold air assembly (ignore the turbo sitting behind it):
the ducting seems to be the same right up to the filterhousing. I don't have a good pic of it but it was cylindershaped and had a pipe pointing to the front for colder air I guess. But the small filter inside just seemed so restrictive in flow so I thought I'd try this much larger filter instead.
So these aren't stock parts in my car? What are they then?
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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The only thing i see in that picture is a slp cold air box. That is the stock ducting, just like on my car and many others that i have seen.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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Thats stock 88-89 ducting.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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My 89 gta has the same ducting, that is stock.
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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I agree it's stock ducting.

But I also agree that that HUGE hot air intake is not helping hp at all. I saw a stock looking TPI in the back ground of the first pic. I don't think the air filter size was holding that combo back.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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It's stock ducting, nothing slp about it . 83 Crossfire TA - hows that setup coming, by now I'd expect you to have a running turbo setup for how much "advice" you give.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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One more vote for stock ducting...that's what came on my 89
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
and this is an SLP cold air assembly (ignore the turbo sitting behind it):
Mark,

SLP used the factory ducting for 88-92 TPI cars, and just added an air box. Back when people actually used to like these cars, and had money at the same time - I would sell a lot of these 88-92 ducting setups.

Suposedly, between the 'newer' ducting, and the dual cat option, the TPI cars picked up something like 15hp.

Which is prolly the same as 1 degree of timing on our cars

-- Joe
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