welding braided steel line?
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welding braided steel line?
I have a piece of 12an braided steel line for a turbo return line. The problem is that the hose end is too wide to fit between the compressor and turbine housings. However, the line itself fits in the gap.
I machined the oil return flange with a 3/4" hole. Is it possible to just weld the line to the flange? Or is there another solution?
I machined the oil return flange with a 3/4" hole. Is it possible to just weld the line to the flange? Or is there another solution?
I've never attempted anything like this, but I think if I understand the way braided steel line is constructed, it would just be too thin to weld unless you're _REALLY_ good.
I know a guy who claimed he could weld aluminum foil together with a TIG and had it passed via x-ray as a legit weld, but he's a total politician and he'll say anything he thinks you want to hear.
I really think if you tried to weld it, the individual strands would just burn up piece by piece.
I could be wrong.
You might be able to solder or braze it.
Mathius
I know a guy who claimed he could weld aluminum foil together with a TIG and had it passed via x-ray as a legit weld, but he's a total politician and he'll say anything he thinks you want to hear.
I really think if you tried to weld it, the individual strands would just burn up piece by piece.
I could be wrong.
You might be able to solder or braze it.
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Considering the braid is just a protective covering over a rubber hose, even if you could get it to weld it wouldn't actually seal anything.
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Originally posted by Apeiron
Considering the braid is just a protective covering over a rubber hose, even if you could get it to weld it wouldn't actually seal anything.
Considering the braid is just a protective covering over a rubber hose, even if you could get it to weld it wouldn't actually seal anything.
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or try using a normal size piece of line, -12 for a turbo oil drain line? thats insane
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It's probably overkill, but it's what I got. I'll probably take Apeiron's advise and get some tubing to weld to the flange, and then connect the line to the tubing.
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silver soldering would work good, its alot stronger then soldering with lead and can handle some pretty high psi, and its not all that hard to do, all you need is a torch and use the smallest flame attatchment possible. im pretty sure welding would just melt right trough it..... get a small peice and test on it possibly?
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WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???
It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.
And no, chewing gum won’t work either.
Duct tape might.
It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.
And no, chewing gum won’t work either.
Duct tape might.
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange.
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange.
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???
It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.
And no, chewing gum won’t work either.
Duct tape might.
WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???
It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.
And no, chewing gum won’t work either.
Duct tape might.
well you accualy could silversolder it.... not gunna hold any pressure or liquids though
LOL, Thanks for the laugh. I just did a search and confirmed what I thought... thats the first time the word "macramé" has ever been used on Thirdgen.org.
Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???
It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.
And no, chewing gum won’t work either.
Duct tape might.
WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???
It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.
And no, chewing gum won’t work either.
Duct tape might.
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Re: welding braided steel line?
Originally posted by calebzman
I have a piece of 12an braided steel line for a turbo return line. The problem is that the hose end is too wide to fit between the compressor and turbine housings. However, the line itself fits in the gap.
I machined the oil return flange with a 3/4" hole. Is it possible to just weld the line to the flange? Or is there another solution?
I have a piece of 12an braided steel line for a turbo return line. The problem is that the hose end is too wide to fit between the compressor and turbine housings. However, the line itself fits in the gap.
I machined the oil return flange with a 3/4" hole. Is it possible to just weld the line to the flange? Or is there another solution?
weld a AN fitting to the tube.
connect a normal AN fitting to the SS line
connect line to turbo drain tube via AN fitting..
although im curious to what the final outcome of this turbo setup will be, considering that the person fabricating it couldnt figure this out... lol
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well, to be politcally correct and a shiny happy 'net resident you can't really say what you want. On another board someone is asking about gearing for a car that will trap 170 and doesn't seem to understand that the combination has a lot of effect on the gearing.
Right now I'm thinking of strongly pushing people towards more and more dangerous things and let darwin take care of it.
You want 2000hp... sure, this is how you do it, you can't tell your right foot from your left... no problem, I'll draw pictures, just match them up. Naw, it doesn't need seatbelts...
Right now I'm thinking of strongly pushing people towards more and more dangerous things and let darwin take care of it.
You want 2000hp... sure, this is how you do it, you can't tell your right foot from your left... no problem, I'll draw pictures, just match them up. Naw, it doesn't need seatbelts...
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Originally posted by b_the_j
LMMFAO, you guys are gonna send me to the hospital!!!
LMMFAO, you guys are gonna send me to the hospital!!!

if someones ever actually tried that, i really do want to see pics! lol
Yuh can sew
yu cn welder that ther braided steel together plenty. I got tons of ere under my hood all welded up. Soonas Igets the rest ah the rivets in my new body kit I'll post yaaalls some pics
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