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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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welding braided steel line?

I have a piece of 12an braided steel line for a turbo return line. The problem is that the hose end is too wide to fit between the compressor and turbine housings. However, the line itself fits in the gap.

I machined the oil return flange with a 3/4" hole. Is it possible to just weld the line to the flange? Or is there another solution?
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Use a banjo fitting, or some tubing.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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I've never attempted anything like this, but I think if I understand the way braided steel line is constructed, it would just be too thin to weld unless you're _REALLY_ good.

I know a guy who claimed he could weld aluminum foil together with a TIG and had it passed via x-ray as a legit weld, but he's a total politician and he'll say anything he thinks you want to hear.

I really think if you tried to weld it, the individual strands would just burn up piece by piece.

I could be wrong.

You might be able to solder or braze it.

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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Considering the braid is just a protective covering over a rubber hose, even if you could get it to weld it wouldn't actually seal anything.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by Apeiron
Considering the braid is just a protective covering over a rubber hose, even if you could get it to weld it wouldn't actually seal anything.
My thoughts exactly.
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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or try using a normal size piece of line, -12 for a turbo oil drain line? thats insane
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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It's probably overkill, but it's what I got. I'll probably take Apeiron's advise and get some tubing to weld to the flange, and then connect the line to the tubing.
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Old Dec 31, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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silver soldering would work good, its alot stronger then soldering with lead and can handle some pretty high psi, and its not all that hard to do, all you need is a torch and use the smallest flame attatchment possible. im pretty sure welding would just melt right trough it..... get a small peice and test on it possibly?
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???

It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.

No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.

And no, chewing gum won’t work either.

Duct tape might.
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange.
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???

It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.

No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.

And no, chewing gum won’t work either.

Duct tape might.
LMAO now that i really think about it........ your right! i completely forgot about whats inside the metal

well you accualy could silversolder it.... not gunna hold any pressure or liquids though
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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LOL, Thanks for the laugh. I just did a search and confirmed what I thought... thats the first time the word "macramé" has ever been used on Thirdgen.org.

Originally posted by 83 Crossfire TA
WTF? Welding? Silver soldering? HAVE YOU GUYS EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PIECE OF BRAIDED HOSE???

It's RUBBER or teflon hose with a protective stainless braid on the outside of it, it's still the same rubber hose without the braid, if you take the rubber hose out of it you end up with a pile of useles crap.

No, you can’t weld, solder, braze, superglue, braid or macramé it to the flange. Get a proper hose end and thread it to a fitting or use a properly sized hose barb and a hose clamp.

And no, chewing gum won’t work either.

Duct tape might.
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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hey, I just tell it like it is...
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Re: welding braided steel line?

Originally posted by calebzman
I have a piece of 12an braided steel line for a turbo return line. The problem is that the hose end is too wide to fit between the compressor and turbine housings. However, the line itself fits in the gap.

I machined the oil return flange with a 3/4" hole. Is it possible to just weld the line to the flange? Or is there another solution?
weld a tube to the flange to let it come out past the housings.
weld a AN fitting to the tube.

connect a normal AN fitting to the SS line

connect line to turbo drain tube via AN fitting..




although im curious to what the final outcome of this turbo setup will be, considering that the person fabricating it couldnt figure this out... lol
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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well, to be politcally correct and a shiny happy 'net resident you can't really say what you want. On another board someone is asking about gearing for a car that will trap 170 and doesn't seem to understand that the combination has a lot of effect on the gearing.

Right now I'm thinking of strongly pushing people towards more and more dangerous things and let darwin take care of it.

You want 2000hp... sure, this is how you do it, you can't tell your right foot from your left... no problem, I'll draw pictures, just match them up. Naw, it doesn't need seatbelts...
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Just crimp the ends together and use chicken wire to hold it together.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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LMMFAO, you guys are gonna send me to the hospital!!!

I agree with 83 CROSSFIRE.... duct tape is definately the answer
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by b_the_j
LMMFAO, you guys are gonna send me to the hospital!!!
is this before or after their car slams into you when the "welded SS brake lines" fail?


if someones ever actually tried that, i really do want to see pics! lol
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Yuh can sew

yu cn welder that ther braided steel together plenty. I got tons of ere under my hood all welded up. Soonas Igets the rest ah the rivets in my new body kit I'll post yaaalls some pics
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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I followed Apeiron's advice to use some tubing.
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