OK guys two different ideas here, 1st idea, buy ram air hood from hawks, fab. up my own intake box that actually seals to the hood correctly, but there is a twist i wanna design 2 small areas on each side of the filter box for dry ice or regular ice to be placed. The question is will i have enough room for this, does anyone know the measurements for the ram air filter box that is sold on hawks, if so i could us them for a template, and or has someone already done this whole setup please post measurements/pics if u have them! 2nd idea, fab. up my own dual snorkel 4in. alum. tubing that runs to either side of the engine bay, where the battery was and the charcoal canister was, i would have to cut out the areas for the filters to be closer to the ground, also if i could do the same concept make boxes in the areas around the tubing to put the ice. Some of the costs i came up with for materials, Dual snorkel idea around $500 shipped with tax, ram air hood with fab. box, around $700 shipped with tax. Sorry this is so long but if i could get your guys input or help on these ideas that would be great!

Thanks,Gary

 

Hmmmm. I have been looking for a way to keep beer cold on the way home from the store. Dry ice is a great idea but I think it would work better in the interior of the car.

 

dry ice in the actual intake tubing is gonna do nothing but suck co2 into the intake, which isnt flamable and will leave less room for flamable oxygen. so youll loose hp that way. if you seal it off from the air intake, it might result in lower intake air temps. is this something for the track? dry ice wont last but maybe 15 minutes under the hood.

 

well if i fabbed a release tube like the one on a trans or rear i could direct the gas flow away from the intake itself. the box is around the tubing for the intake. that's the idea im goin for.

 

ill fill you guys on the application i have an 86 t/a it has a mild built 350 in it im using the car for an scca event called hillclimb. i want to design an intake because i have plans to run a boosted LS motor in it. as of now it would look sick. also the hillclimb courses only run for a couple min. tops each run.

 

might work to get a slightly colder air charge. probably wont be much though since with the speed the air is gonna be flowing through, it wont be in contact with the colder outside of the tubes long enough to disappate much heat.

 

if you force induction it, you could probably rig up some sort of intercooler that had smaller tubes running through the dry ice box. that would probably work better than an air to air intercooler.

 

wow.....

ok this is how i read that...

"I want to buy a ram air hood"

-- ok... good idea

"I want to make it functional"

-- ok, that's good, i think i can help with that

"I also want to put dry ice in it"

" :::blank stare::: ..... wtf???? whyyyyyyyy?????"

ok i'll just say this... We breath oxygen..... so do motors...

We exhale Carbon dioxide... so does dry ice...

it's probably not a good idea to ram carbon dioxide into your engine, it definitely wouldn't help it run any better with less oxygen, even if it's slightly less.... the object of motors is to put MORE air into them...

so, i really don't understand why you'd do this.. it wont help cool the motor, it won't help cool the air going into the motor, it wont help the motor run better, even if you just sealed the ice and weren't letting it go into the engine...

so.. after i said all of that, the ONLY possibility i can think of is that you're trying to super cool the air going into the motor..... in which case, i think the cost of the dry ice and inconvenience would greatly outweigh whatever .5hp (flywheel) gain you get from it... and considering it's about to be winter????????? you'll see more horsepower anyway...

so scrap the ice idea...

but if you REALLY HAVE to do something extravagant like that, you could always hook up a liquid intercooler to it, but it would really restrict the hell out of the air, so you'd also need to put one of those pesky turbo things on it.........


bottom line: this is a car.. not a computer case...

 

Thats right mitchberry i was born yesterday..... obviously i know the basic functions of a motor.... if you did your home work there are systems out there that people use ice around the intake aka worlds fastest banks twin turbo trans am. plus i can walk across the street to get dry ice also why the hell would i race in the winter?..... i like getting input from people who ACTUALLY know what there talking about.

 

Using an artificial cooler on the intake for a boosted application is TOTALLY different than N/A

Most of those kits are trying to bring the IATs down to within a few degrees of ambient because the compressor outputs temps so high, pinging WILL result

Try it and see

Weld a small bracket in front of the bumper and mount a cooler full of ice. Cut a hole on opposite sides. Filter to one side, intake to the other. Do a pass and see how little difference it makes

 

This idea... but try to use smaller pipe since 4" is alot of intake pipe for a mild motor if you do dual snorkle. You can fit 4" in the battery box areas, thats exactly what I'm doing on my turbo motor but 3.5" would likely be easier and cheaper. dual 3" may work but long runs of that pipe may restrict it some.

Then fab a container around the battery box to run the air pipe thru it so you can lay ice all around the pipe.

However I dont see this gaining too much power. When I iced down the entire plenum of my HSR and the air intake box for an hour, right before making a 1/4 mile pass, I did see almost a tenth increase in performance. If you just ice a small portion of the pipe, theres only so much heat transfer that is going to happen to the incoming air that I doubt its gonna work as you hope it would.

Better idea is a CO2 or nitrous sprayer that guy use on intercoolers. That stuff comes out very coold and you can run lines to spray the entire intake system surface to cool things down. But still, alot of effort for minimal gains. Boosted guys are different, there intakes are heating up alot more so the cooling helps alot more.

 

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