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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

I just HAD to share this... Thoughts???? lol
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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Not pretty for sure. I've seen worse run better tho!
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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LMFAO! its frankenheader! lol.
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 12:00 PM
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Dirt Dobbers nest?
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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I can imagine the camera pulling back and there is Megan Fox holding the hood up for Shia Lebouf...
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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who sneezed
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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how is that a "fail"? looks functional...
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

That's what you get when "bolt on" and "cheap" are used in the same sentence.
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

everyone that calls this a "fail" needs to post up pics of their first attempt at welding together a turbo header.. i'm sure every single one of them is a tig welded masterpiece with the best looking welds ever seen.
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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Heres my first attempt at building a set of headers, now your turn novaderrik

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Heres the 2nd "attempt"

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Sometimes when people do **** poor work, defending them isnt what's needed, but you were probably raised after all of the trophy's for "participation" started getting awarded, werent you ?
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

z28ricer your second attempt at those headers looks pretty good.. better than my true dual system routed like a ford lightnings.. my welds look like S***
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

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z28ricer your second attempt at those headers looks pretty good.. better than my true dual system routed like a ford lightnings.. my welds look like S***
Gotta practice for a bit before you attack the stuff you want to use.

If you are mig welding up exhaust, make damn sure you get .02x wire, I've seen too much ugly stuff that may have been a LOT better if people practiced on some scraps of the same thickness and used the right wire as well as gas.

.030/.035 fluxcore + exhaust pipe = dumb idea.
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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The funny part is i've got that pic in the original post saved in my photobucket just cause of how terrible it was, a few others in my saved because they were terrible:

I took these of some wiring I found inside a car, so many people think they can wire stuff up, and often the stuff I find is pretty bad.

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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 10:58 PM
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LMAO at Z28ricer. It looks like ATCFLYBOY02 just got served up a whole bunch of STFU or put up!?!?
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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My put up or shut up was directed at "novaderrik" for trying to claim put up or shut up, without putting up.
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Old Sep 16, 2012 | 11:59 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

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My put up or shut up was directed at "novaderrik" for trying to claim put up or shut up, without putting up.
I know what you're saying, but I think my reply would apply to both ATCFLYBOY02 and NOVADERRIK.

I can deal with the "put up or shut up" thing....do a search....just got tired of everything I did or was trying to do back in the day being copied and then claimed by others as their own. Not whining, just saying.

THAT is why my new set-up in an "Iron-Duke 4" with a glide....400 shot off the line with a 8" tire, no 'posi' just welded spider gears!!!

Nice headers BTW. Both sets.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 12:07 AM
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I know what you're saying, but I think my reply would apply to both ATCFLYBOY02 and NOVADERRIK.

I can deal with the "put up or shut up" thing....do a search....just got tired of everything I did or was trying to do back in the day being copied and then claimed by others as their own. Not whining, just saying.

THAT is why my new set-up in an "Iron-Duke 4" with a glide....400 shot off the line with a 8" tire, no 'posi' just welded spider gears!!!

Nice headers BTW. Both sets.
Bah, gotta remember man, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

I dont worry about others copying what I do, I just make sure to do it better

Thanks for the compliment, i've got pics of a few other sets, those were just the earliest, tomorrow i'll be working on some that are 1-7/8 -> 2-1/8->3" TriY's, the other two sets were 1-3/4" and the second set being triy went 2" then 2.5"
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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HAHA!!! Dude, I have been in the welding business for years and I can assure you, NOTHING will EVER leave my shop, seeing as I own the thing, without it looking it best & functioning correctly!
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

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.030/.035 fluxcore + exhaust pipe = dumb idea.
its not that hard, just takes some practice. ideal? heck no! but very doable
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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its not that hard, just takes some practice. ideal? heck no! but very doable
Doable ? I have yet to see an exanple that I would tolerate on something I own for even a test drive around the block....
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

yes, I use it all the time. it's hard to do but it's absolutely possible. I though i had some up-close weld pics of the 3" exhaust I just put together but I don't. Looks and works well, took a bunch of practice and wire feed and torch speed is critical but once you get it right its just fine.
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

Flux core takes alot of time and practice to get it right and make it look good. MIG/TIG (according to the metal) is always the preferred method. Stick will just burn right on thru most of the time...
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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i had a pretty good weld come out of .30 fluxcore wire.. but i had to change the settings and now i cant get it set back to that and it doesnt help that everytime i try to weld now im hyper and cant stop fidgeting
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Old Sep 17, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

Originally Posted by Z28ricer
Heres my first attempt at building a set of headers, now your turn novaderrik









Heres the 2nd "attempt"






Sometimes when people do **** poor work, defending them isnt what's needed, but you were probably raised after all of the trophy's for "participation" started getting awarded, werent you ?
looks good. now lets see some pics of some of the first stuff you ever welded together when you didn't know what you were doing. the pic in the OP looks functional, if maybe a bit overdone.. with some grinding and some hi-temp paint it will look ok, if that's what the person building it wants to do. i've welded some ugly stuff together that worked, which is fine since i don't build show cars and am not out to impress anyone.
i've never built headers before- done a few Y pipes and exhaust systems from scratch- but i did just recently build a coolant pipe for my POS 98 Cavalier because the stock one rusted out after only 297,000 miles.. it came out pretty good, but it's all rusty now because i didn't bother to paint it..
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 01:25 AM
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The first stuff I welded that was to be used, or the first that I practiced on before welding something to be used ?

Therein lies the use of intelligence, as I already said, you practice on something else, then figure out how to make what you are doing work right, not lay some bird poop welds on something you intend to use, with severely cheated pie cuts, with a disaster of an end result.

Any way you cut it that original pic is a pile of shiat.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 01:29 AM
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Heres some of that header, it was one of the first things I ever TIG welded together.

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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 05:50 AM
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

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The first stuff I welded that was to be used, or the first that I practiced on before welding something to be used ?

Therein lies the use of intelligence, as I already said, you practice on something else, then figure out how to make what you are doing work right, not lay some bird poop welds on something you intend to use, with severely cheated pie cuts, with a disaster of an end result.

Any way you cut it that original pic is a pile of shiat.
functional doesn't have to be pretty. there are rat rod guys that go out of their way to make their stuff look ugly, but it works. some of them even put a lot more effort into making their cars look like bigger pieces of crap than they are on purpose. maybe this turbo header was made with that ethos in mind by someone that was fully capable of doing "pretty" if he had wanted to- keep it ugly and make people wonder how in the hell that POS runs so damn hard..or maybe it was someone's first attempt to make something like that and they didn't have anyone guiding them that knew what the hell was going on.
without context it's impossible to know.

on the subject of "ugly but functional"- i used to get a perverse kind of joy out of beating up on people at the drag strip on the friday night grudge races in their shiny little Hondas, Mustangs, and even the occasional WRX STi when i had my ratty and beat up multicolored 71 Nova. i was never a dick about it- i was there to have fun and hang out, not swing my dick around and prove i was the alpha male. i'd always find the people in the pits after we raced and talk to them and ask them about their cars and they'd ask about mine.

my current 86 Camaro looks like something that some idiot 17 year old with a roll of duct tape put together and not a 37 year old guy that just wanted a reliable V8 powered daily driver.. the car isn't nice enough to worry about making pretty and all the duct tape, lawn edging, coroplast, and even the lexan headlight covers i made for it were all put there to make the car slip thru the air more efficiently.. it's ugly but it works for what it's designed to do, but by your standards it lacks "intelligence".

just for kicks, here's the temp Y pipe i made for my car this spring.. i think i spent about 2 hours total on it, and it has held together for almost 10,000 miles so far, with only some flattening on the low point where it goes under the trans crossmember.. not the prettiest thing i've ever made, but it looks ok for .030 flux core wire in a 120 volt welder. i welcome your expert opinion..


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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:42 AM
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the first welding i ever did, 20+ years ago, was TIG. i was a helper in a shop and spent my lunches learning to weld on some scap. after about a month i could write my name. i know a month seems long but we only got a 1/2 hour lunch. if i was building custom headers, id probabley want to tig them. aluminized exhaust tubing, id rather just mig. ive used flux-core welders many times. i dont see a problem welding up an exhaust system with them. whos gonna see it anyway? but the pic from the OP is a terrible example of too much beer. i wouldnt want that terd in my yard. lol.Name:  091002_180800.jpg
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 08:50 AM
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It might have been for a rat rod, I can see that.
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Re: This has to be the crappiest job EVER!!!

Originally Posted by Z28ricer
Bah, gotta remember man, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

I dont worry about others copying what I do, I just make sure to do it better

Thanks for the compliment, i've got pics of a few other sets, those were just the earliest, tomorrow i'll be working on some that are 1-7/8 -> 2-1/8->3" TriY's, the other two sets were 1-3/4" and the second set being triy went 2" then 2.5"

It is, except for when they ask (ok, damn near beg) for help, ask to the original "proto-types" and they stiff you..... Ya know???

Headers look good.
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