I am 16 years old, and I want my first car to be a good 88-90 iroc-z with a 5.7 V8 and a 5 speed manual (I would like a 6 speed but dont know if they made them at that time), preferably with t-tops or if not a coupe (not a convertible). I want some thing like this (http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...rolet%20Camaro) but as i said with t tops or coupe. How much do you think that would cost?



P.S.: i really dont know that much about the options they had (the engines, transmisions, t-tops, etc) so if i said something wrong please correct me.

 

You should ask a question like the this on the History/Restoration board, it'll be moved there eventually.

Anyway, good choice for a car. I am looking for an 87 myself. Honestly for the car you want, a 350 TPI in great/new condition, you're gonna pay more like $6-$7,000 and they are getting rarer. 350 TPI cars only came with an Automatic. If you want a manual you'd have to do a swap.

 

Well, the 5.7 (L98) was not offered with a manual transmission. (that sucks). However the 5.0 was....(5spd.)

The guy in that picture has a sweet ride, but it's got 17 or 18 inch rims, which were not a factory option, and it's also been lowered.

I'd say that IrocZtwentygr8 was right about price...although depending on condition and how willing and patient you are, you can find just about any car for any price.


don't worry about not knowing options and models etc. Just hang aroun these boards for a while and you'll learn TONS. Welcome to the boards!!!

-Abubaca

 

who makes the iroc rims in that size (18 inch). American Racing?

 

American racing doesnt make anything like an IROC rim. I forget the name of the company that does but its not them.

 

You might as well have posted...

I am 16 years old, and I want to hang myself with an extension cord, and have a midget light my body on fire.

You say first car, as in you're going to learn to drive in this car, you're going to learn your limits in this car, etc. Any TPI V8 is going to be enough power to get yourself in a good bit of trouble. An L98 car is going to have higher limits then you're going to be able to handle. If you're in an area where rain/snow is common, then you're probably going to wreck it the 3rd or 4th time out. Not to mention that rust will set in within one good winter.

Have a look at http://towzone.com/repeaters/repeaters.html


this used to be a Z28, most likely a 305.

Just think about this a bit. If you really want that much power, look into a 93-96 Z28. You'll get every bit as much power, a car thats not as rare, with a higher likely hood of surviving a moment of stupidity. Consider a 90-92 RS with a 305. The power will be more managable, the look is still the same, and it'll be cheaper to insure and easier to replace when its destroyed.

 

I haven't seen what i consider to be a decent iroc for under 6,000. But the asking price around here seems to be higher than in other parts of the country. I've looked at two Iroc's recently, an 87 and an 88, both were 6,500 OBO, and they were not in decent shape, i don't know what the eventual selling price was.

 

Boy Drew, simmer down, take it easy on him he's a newbie. However your response was hilarious!

labrat, what kind of IROC are you looking for I have an '88 IROC 5.7 I'm trying to sell along with my '91 B4C, and I'm not asking anthing close to $6000. PM me if your interested.

Later, Garrett

 

my first car was 1988 iroc-z 5.7 camaro with t-tops and fully loaded..

its was in ok shape i bought it for 3,000 bucks..

so a great condition would be around 5,000 at least around my place..

 

No disrespect meant, but you are asking way too much and you are asking for trouble. First of all they didn't make a manual 350, second of all those wheels you like so much are fashioned after an 85-87 design; 88+ was more rounded off, thirdly and most importantly you have no experience whatsoever! You will likely end up hurting yourself and destroying a nice car. I thought I was King Sh*t when I got my first car (an 89 Grand Am 2.5L) and I KNEW I was a very safe driver who could do no wrong. I would criticize other drivers, I would correct people when I was the passenger with others driving, etc. Guess what? I wrecked it within 30 days of getting it. Ran into a ditch and a barbed wire fence. Not too long after that, I wrecked it again, this time I spun out around a curve and hit the rear wheel on an embankment, causing rear brake problems. I was lucky because I was up in the mountains and if that wooden fence had not been there I would've probably never been heard from again. This was all 10 years ago. Remember my advice: Your first car should be a cheap econobox, probably a V6 or less, maybe even front wheel drive. You will have plenty of time later to show off to your so-called friends after you gain experience, but for now, play it smart and safe man. Save your enthusiasm for later. Nothing personal, but you will almost certainly total a thirdgen if it's your first car at that age. Statistics are dead on. Plus the insurance will absolutely kill your budget, unless mommy and daddy are paying for it. Good luck, GT

 

Look man, I don't want to be a kill joy either but you are asking for a lot of POWER . Probably more than you realize. If you must have a 3rd gen then get the v6 or something and do a swap later. These cars look good to the young but they are very fast and even faster to the inexperienced driver. Plus the insurance is a M@#$%^&F*%$#! at your age. See all of us were your age looking at these cars when they first came out going, "Man, I want that IROC'. Thank *** our parents were smarter than us, which is why we are able to tell you the stories. But hell if you are like most teenagers and don't listen then just take it easy with your new IROC for a couple of years. Then mash the gas pedal.

 

labrat, what kind of IROC are you looking for I have an '88 IROC 5.7 I'm trying to sell along with my '91 B4C, and I'm not asking anthing close to $6000. PM me if your interested.

I'm not really looking for another iroc right now. I basically look at every Iroc that is for sale in this area, just to see what people are asking.

 

good? iroc? AHAHAHAHA

SPORT COUPES RULE!

 

OOPS

 

here's another wrecked F body. Glad i wasn't the passenger, or the driver.

 

You know, I only remember one car wreck fatality when I was in high school, and he was driving a Bronco. I would recommend starting out with a 305 TBI or 4 barrel car. Once you get a little more experience, then step up.

 

It kind of depends on where you live in the USA. I saw more fatal accidents in the five years i lived in San Diego, CA, than in the 39 years I have lived in Wisconsin!

 

I agree, these cars are getting more expensive every day, glad I found mine when I did, you will always see the occasional "good deal", but for the most part these cars are holding price pretty good.

 

Well my first car was a 1984 Chevy Impala that was a former police cruiser. The original engine had been yanked out in favor of a 4BBL 454 Chevy Engine.

I *NEVER* had an accident in that car. My second car was a 1986 Mustang GT 5.0L Hatchback. It was modded to over 300HP. I never had an accident in this car.

Acedemicaly however I agree. Learning to drive on a V8 of any sort can get you in trouble. The power is one part of it. Another is that you will have a tendancy to want to race. You may say that you don't now, but if you are really into cars and some r!ce rocket pulls up next to you throwing revs in his 4 banger you may just want to teach him whos boss. That can get an inexperienced driver killed.

If you are going to get a V8 be carefull. Especially if you drive one in the rain or snow. I consider myself to be an experienced driver. However my car scares the crap out of me in the rain.

These cars do not have ABS and most don't have 4 wheel disc brakes or any of the other wonderfull features that make cars easier to handle in the rain.

Something as simple as turning into a place when it is wet can cause the car to flip around in the wrong lane of traffic. It happened to me once. Consider this before making your purchase.

 

I bought mine for $800.

305 TPI
4-wheel disc
Power everything
8X,XXX miles

didnt start...just put a starter in and it ran great

only thing its missing is T-Tops and a 350 but hey cant complain for the price. Its always nice to buy from someone who doesnt know what they have

 

I dont know your background, but you may have been already driving go-carts, dirtbikes, or something else. If you can do those without killing yourself, you certainly can drive an IROC. The best experience for me was driving my Honda Elsinore on a frozen lake as 10 year old. I am now 42 and have owned several muscle cars and never an accident, and no tickets. However, If the first time you've been behind a wheel was in drivers ed, I would suggest a more economical and sensible vehicle.

 

I really appreciate the advice (no, i am not being sarcastic), about the insurance and the car, I would be the one paying for everything, (my dad has always said that your not suppposed to give your kids everything). I guess that i for now i will have to go half way between a half of an engine that is positioned the wrong way and moves the wrong wheels, and a v8 iroc, and get a regular v6, but still with a manual tranny (just love to shift the gears!). But in the future i will get an iroc (2 or 3 years from now, if i have the money).

 

I bought my 87 Iroc 350 2 yrs ago for $4500 it was in good shape.

If I dont know where you guys are getting $6000 from. But If I see a 87 Iroc for $6K & a 95 Z for $6k I would buy the 95. But since I have both cars I dont need to buy another one.

 

I don't wanna sound like a jerk here, but why does everyone have it out against us 16 year old guys? Not all of us are as bad of drivers as most people think! I've had my '83 Z28 with a 5 speed and swapped in 350 with enough power to blow most 4 bangers, as well and 5L mustangs f-bodies, outta the water, BUT that does not mean that i street race and have never been in an accident and haven't even had any 'near misses' driving this car, or any other.

If i came off sounding like an ***hole, sorry, i didn't mean to, just trying to make a point here.

(BTW, i will be 17 in a week)

 

TO Air_Adam
I am they guy who started the post, and funny thing i will be 16 in one week too (FEB 5 1987), next wednesday!
BTW, I also consider myself a good driver too, I drive carefully and I am just not the kind the person that would race or do something stupid just because a passenger or another driver dares me too.

 

You have to give him credit for choosing the car he did. I would like to have one. I don't know how much you would pay for a decent looking I-roc. One thing I can tell you is that my Camaro is my fourth car (first two my parents bought). I have never wrecked one (knock on wood). I have blown the motor in my everyday driver so I have to drive my Camaro in the snow and it scares the H*LL out of me. It scares me when the roads are dry. I guess that is because I don't want anything to happen to it. My advice would be find a cheap car to drive all the time and save up for a pretty decent I-roc and fix it up and drive it only in the summer when it is dry out and you can get use to it.

All that power + rear wheel drive + snow= lots of scares or even a wreck.

When you get one enjoy it. They are the best cars to have (IMO).

 

My first car was my IROC and you know, I think you're being wishy-washy by NOT getting the 5.7. You'll learn from your mistakes. I have. I am a much better driver since I tought myself on such a car. You'll never learn how to control a car with a Taurus and you'll never be able to understand "quick" with a stock LG4 or a 2.8/3.1. Save yourself the money, get the 5.7 and have fun, just use your head. I did, and I learned a lot. Sure, I had an accident, but I learned from it. You'll never know unless you try and if people don't give you the chance, you'll just be even worse once you finally get there. I'm 19 now and have done my share of stupid stuff, but you're only young once.

 

Hey My first car was [or is, I still have it] a british sports car, I took it easy and learned before I drove it like it was ment to be drivn. Never the less If you want a powerfull car that's cool. My first car was a 69' MGB-GT w/ a $5,000 paint job, black english leather interior re-built to rally sepecs and it still doesnt even have a scratch. So get what you like, just use you freaking head and dont forget you can live once.

 

I just have to get in on this... Lopex21.. Dude All I can say is take it from a fool who has been there. I am one of the lucky ones who beat the odds. I respect your choice in wanting an f-body. The only thing I can tell you is I was you back in 1988.. I was the "responsible one" who would never race or anything like that. I was just greatful to get my license and a car. TRUST ME ON THIS... If you get a tpi F-body you will run it... Period... The power is worse than any drug.At first you will live up to your own promises and be cautious. But when you feel you have it all under control you will cut her loose one time (maybe 100 times) but one of those times will get yourself hurt or worse killed. Not because you ar ea bad driver just because of lack of experience.Granted these cars arent the fastest thing out there and they still handle with most cars out there, you honestly have to have a feel for a 3rd gen f-body. They can be tricky. BUT and I say this with all sincerity, once you get the feel for a decent 3rd gen car you feel connected and you become one with the car... They arent your modern cars who compensate for your mistakes. If you make a mistake in a 3rd gen she will tell on you really fast. You have to make sure your reflexes and driving skills are very sharp or you will get yourself hurt.PERIOD.. That isnt saying you are incapable of driving a 3rd gen. If you must have one please do yourself a favor and take some driving classes which features rear drive cars. Front drive and rear drive are completely different as you may already know. They both have their advantages and disadvantages. This is the first time I ever mentioned this on these boards but my 19 year old sister was killed in a 91 camaro back in 1994. This is why I am being so passionate on this. I dont care who disagrees with me on this but my advice to you is that if you must have a 3rd gen f-body with a 5.7 tpi skip it right now. Buy a v6 or a 5.0 TBI car and get familliar with them before you jump to a tpi engine. Our cars are holding their value fairly well and in a few years you will be able to pick up a nice 5.7 iroc for a couple of thousand more than you would have to pay now. To me its a no brainer but I was 16 years old as well. If you elect to go for it and get a tpi engine then you better be on your toes because just about the time you feel you have everything under control you might find yourself in a bad situation quick. Once again I am not trying to downgrade your driving abilities. I am just trying to give you a little friendly advice from a fool who has been in your shoes not too long ago. Either way you choose please be responsible and safe.....Peace

 

I guess I was not as fortunate as others when I was 16 because I got a big old '79 Delta 88 land barge for wheels. I am with "L98" with the thinking that using the cars power is like a drug because it is, was and always will be an addiction for me. Only difference is that over the years I have learned the hard way and realized through my mistakes that self control and respect for the car you are driving is the only way to survive.

I can also imagine how I would have responded to this type of preaching when I was 16. I would have laughed at it and assured myself that I am a good enough driver to handle any kind of sports car. NOT! I still get surprised to this day and I'm 31.

I say start off with a safe and solid shi**er have your fender benders, learn your lessons the hard way and after a couple of years you will start to see what it's all about, then lay down some good hard earned coin for the best available example of the car that you REALLY want.

Good luck!

 

I agree with some of what was said above.

Especially the bit about these not being great beginner cars because they are touchy cars, not "dangerous" kind of touchy, but just less forgiving than say, your moms '85 Honda Civic or something.

I think that driving classes for a car like this isn't a bad idea, but my suggestion is to just go to a dealer or a friend/family member with a similar car and drive it a bit just so you have an idea of what you are getting yourself into.

Oh yea, one more thing... when you get your licence, please don't rush out the same day and pick up a 3rd gen car, take *at least* a month to get used to driving alone in a normal car, get all the 'lead foot' out of your system as much as you can before hopping into a 3rd gen. Just saying that because the transfer from a normal car with 120hp and mom/dad in the passenger seat to a performance car with an easy 240hp and probably 3X the torque of moms car is not only alot to get used to, it can be dangerous too... i've seen stuff like this happen enough at school to know this is the truth. I'm not saying you couldn't handle the power, its just that hopping into a sports car with a powerful 350 is alot to get used to when you are used to a 2.0L 4 banger.

So, just get used to driving alone in a normal car first, then maybe take out a similar car for a test drive, then see were it goes from there.

 

Personally I say leave this up to the kids folks if they want him to drive a camaro LET THEM. We are not his Family we dont have the right to tell him what he can & what he cant drive.

We dont pay his insurance.

 

The only fatal accidents from when I was in school was 1 guy rolled his jacked up truck and he fell out the window(no seatbelt) and a girl that was driving an 80's dodge colt hit a pickup head on doing about 50 mph. Only one sports car accident (89RS) that I heard of, girl swerved to miss an animal, slid sideways into a ditch and rolled it, both occupents walked away. What I'm getting at is that I dont think it really matters what your driving when you first get car, if your gonna wreck it, your gonna wreck it.

My first car was a 90 lumina that I wrecked within 2 months of having it, any car is capable of going fast enough to kill you, I did over 100mph in that car a number of times and it wasnt safe. I eventually put it in a ditch. Since then I havent had any at fault accidents, I've been rearended twice, although I have come quite close to a few ditchs since then. Bottom line is, If your the type of person who wants a sports car, anything you have you will most likely drive like a sports car and you will probably wreck it. So if you want to waste a nice IROC on that then go ahead.

 

I've got to agree with ALL of you guys. I'm 18 and i also started off driving a 79 MGB. and let me tell ya, if you want to learn how to drive in the rain the hard way, it would be in an MG. i started driving this car when 9 was 14, my parents gave it to me after i had my license for about one year. i found my limits in that car, and after finding out that a 23 year old car wasn't going to get me toand from school every day (25 miles there) my bro-in-law gave me his old 82 camaro sc. well i sent it to someone to get it fixed, and being young, i got screwed. it sat waiting for a clutch kit for 4 months. my parents felt sorry for me ( i think my mom was just tired of driving me to school) and one day we went out and i picked out my 98 camaro sc 5 speed. well, i didnt know what to do with the power, and the second night i had it, i got a ticket. stupid. burnout in a parking lot. well, i have since learned, and gotten the old camaro running and parked cozily in my garage with the MG and the '98. well, now i feel bad for having all these cars, so i'm getting rid of both camaro's and going for an IROC, but i'll prob go auto. i am the "leader" of the car guys / gearhead group at my school, and my best friend who drives a 350hp '72 pontiac lemans is right by my side. my other good friend drives a 92 f-150 (i tried to tell him...) and one day while driving a firends car doing 115 in a 45 he got caught. well, he isnt driving now, and he's waiting for his court date to see if he's going to get his liscense revoked. isnt it strange how the rookie, his first time driving triple digits, gets caught? well. and now its my turn to try to talk some sense to the young guns that think they're indestructible. just watch out guys, ALWAYS wear seat belts, and just USE YOUR HEAD!!! its ok to have a little fun, just dont put other people's lives in danger. thats all i have to say, peace.
john

 

In my previous post I didn't realize you were 16 and no real driving experience. IROCs are great cars, but they are dangerous.

My advice:

If you have a choice between paying the dentist to keep your teeth, or putting headers on your Camaro, choose the dentist.

If you have a choice between going to college or buying a 383 stroker, GO TO COLLEGE.

If you do buy the IROC, take care of it. Do not let your brother/uncle/friends drive it.

Lastly, Enjoy the car. I enjoy looking at mine as much as driving it..

 

you hit it right on.... an LO3 or a LG4 would be perfect..... almost as slow as a 6 banger but the growl that only a v8 can produce. I got my formula 350 when i was 18.....at 16 it would have been WAY too much car for me.

 

As I said ITS NOT FOR US TO MAKE THIS KIDS MIND UP ITS FOR HIM & HIS FOLKS. IF THEY WANT HIM TO HAVE A 350 CAMARO THATS UP TO THEM NOT US.

THEY WILL BE PAYING FOR HIS INSURANCE NOT US.

 

Krazzycowgirl

We all realize that it's not up to us what car he buys, if he goes 100mph in a school zone, or if he drinks his milk everyday etcc..... The guy came for advice on a "First Camaro" and that is what is what he is getting.

It's hard not to sound preachy when telling a 16 year old about a sports car and how to respect it since many of us learned the hard way when we were his age. If he walks away more informed than most other kids his age then more power to him!

Best of luck lopex21! I hope you find what you're looking for.

 

But its not up to us to teach him.

If my son in 8 yrs wants a camaro with a V8 He will have to learn how to take care of it. & pay for his own insurance.
No one around here is giving the kid Credit for being a responsable Driver.

My 15 yr old Nephew is getting a 72 Mustang coupe with a Powerful 351 winsor in it. He does NOT drink & he knows if he gets a ticket that his drivers license will be ripped apart & his insurance cut off.

Most kids I know today have more responsablity then I did when I was their age. Most of them have full time jobs to help take care of familys that are single parent households with more then ONE kid.

This kind of comment is uncalled for. If you dont know the person personally you shouldnt be making comments that hes going to go out & get himself/herself killed ( we are not just talking boys here) .

No one knows if this kid drinks, drives really fast or even drives to show off.
You dont know this kid may be more responsable driver then all of us put together.


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Then what???????? In the news the other day there was a roll over car wreck the passager was killed the driver wasnt both were wearing their seat belts. I do beleive they were in a Civic. I have seen more car wrecks dealing with other makes & someone dying in the wrecks then I have in Camaros.

By the sounds of it you guys think that the kids today should be driving around in TANKS or in Bubbles. Protect the kids.

you guys sound like my grandfather when I was riding a horse that started to buck & tried to throw me off of him " get her off that horse hes going to kill her." what he didnt know is I was riding bulls & broncs at the time. in youth rodeos.