We were cleaning out my dads shop and found a Cross-Fire intake with throttle bodies up in the attic. Anyone have any idea how much this might sell for?? I havent presonally seen it so I dont know if there is a computer or anything with it. I dont really know much about cross-fires and i dont know if this was off a Vette or a F-body. Thanks for the help.

 

my bad , sorry

 

I sold one a few years back, everything intake ralated was included, even the fuel pump, computer and harness. I got 250.00 for it.

 

I generally see them go for around $100. The problem with them is that they are not the most popular setup and the only people who are interested in them, is someone who is restoring an original crossfire car back to stock. Unfortunately, there are not too many of those...

If it is complete, you could see more $$, but if it is missing parts, computer, wiring, you could see less$$.

Hope it helps...

Tom

 

thanks for the info guys.

 

I would not pay anything for it, maybe as scrap it's worth about $.50. If I saw you about to dump it on my property, I would pay you a small amount not to do that... maybe $2 or so.

So I'd say that to me it has a value of about -$1.50.

Very few people have any use for that thing, but there are a few who really like it or who have one and want a spare or whatever; put it in the classifieds on this site and see what you can get. Recycle what you can't use.

 

If someone was to throw one in a dumpster, I'd snag it for my "WALL OF FUEL INJECTION" that I'm building in my apt. So far I've got a TPI, a Fiero MPFI, a TBI, and a 5.0L Ford FI intake.

The wall of Zima idea got shot down cause the truckload of Zima got sold to someone else.

 

You guys are forgetting that there are a few people out there that want to restore some of these cars to factory original condition, even if that means using an out of date injection. I , along with most of you agree though that it is a poor intake, but the old saying goes "one mans junk is another mans treasure" .

Many of those intakes were tossed in favor of something much more performance oriented, so for the restoration crowd, this guy may be able to get some decent cash for that cross-fire.

 

They said the same thing about the FI system that cam on the early Vettes and the 57 Chevy’s, look at they want for that set up now.

 

I figure it will only have value for someone wanting to restore a car to stock. Anyone have any info on how the crossfire worked and why its suck a crappy design? Is it just a cross-ram style intake with 2 TBIs mounted on it??? can u use this intake with two carbs? Like i said i havent looked at it yet and ive never seen one on a car before.

 

It is an intake with 2 one bbl throttle bodies. The left one feeds the right cylinders and the right one feeds the left cylinders. It has really had a lot of different problems ranging from the louvers in the hood leaking in water causing problems to engine to problems with the throttle bodies themselves. It is just a restrictive setup. I imagine that there is a way to modify it for carbs, but it is either very difficult or expensive, as I have never seen it done before. This setup really never caught on. Newer setups are cheaper and have more potential for HP.

Some people have never had problems with their's and others have had nothing buy problems. I personally had nothing but problems.

Value is only to someone looking to restore a crossfire car back to stock. Depending on the price, I would consider picking it up from you to have for parts when others break or act up.

Email me @ Indy82z@yahoo.com if you are interested.

Thanks

Tom

 

They ran OK when they ran right, but they are prone to problems. When they were new they were basically the laughingstock of the Chevrolet product line; my 83 L69 car would absolutely murder a CFI 350 Vette, so bad it didn't even look like a race. People actually took their 82 & 84 CFI Vettes back to dealers and demanded refunds because they were so pitifully slow, even slower than the already-pitiful L48 cars of the late 70s. And I know how slow those were, I had several of them. Traded one in, in fact, a 79 Z28 4-speed, for this 83 HO car I still have.

It has very long, very small intake runners. If you look at the runner size, it's only about 2/3 of the height of the head runner. How stupid can they get. The computer system is very crude, much like a CC carb; except that a CC carb still does most of its work mechanically so the computer only has to make minor tweaks to it, whereas the computer is totally in control of a FI system. But there's not enough computing power there to handle the job in any more than the most basic possible way.

The easiest way to understand it is to think of a Citation or a Celebrity or some such from about the same time frame. They had 4-cylinder motors of around 2.5 liters .... just about half of a 305. The CFI has 2 2.5 injectors. Think of it as exactly the same as a Celebrity, just twice as much. That's precisely what they ran like: a bigger grocery cart motor. Very poor high-RPM power, no real crispness, good torque for the engine size, but total lack of anything resembling "punch" or "nads". Nice grunt from a stop to 10 mph but couldn't even complete a pass on a 2-lane highway at 55 mph (the speed limit in those days).

Like alot of people will say, if you have an original car with one, and it's in good shape and works good, you might as well keep it that way. On the other hand, anybody that actually remembers what those cars were like new, will avoid buying another; just like I did when I bought my car, criterion #1 for rejecting a prospective car was if it had CFI or the LG4,, after I had driven both of those and a L69 car. Not only would I not pay more than some other car for a "perfect" CFI; not only would I merely not pay as much; I wouldn't even buy it at all. That's how desirable it is in my book.

Just MHO.

A 57 Vette or BelAirhas huge desirability no matter what's under the hood; not the least because it's rare, and special, and was the best of its breed in its day, and it really excited people. None of those things apply to CFI cars. That's not a valid comparison. CFI is simply not in that league. It's about like the people with 4-cyl F cars from the early 80s, wanting to know if they should keep it original; not that they shouldn't, but there's no driving force to do so. The correct way to analyze that question would be to ask "Does anybody really care, in particular prospective buyers?" In other words, if you went to sell the car, would you either get more interest, or get a higher price, or have an easier time selling it because it has that feature? That's the true meaning of "value". And by that test, CFI and Iron Duke cars don't have it.