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Old 06-25-2003, 09:08 AM
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Here is The T/A I opted to go with the BLACK air dam... What do you think?

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seee now that looks more like my car then the gta one did..i mean not the wheels are emblems. im talking about the air dam
you do such a good job on these john i cant tell lol...
im gonna look at my car today..

it is a true Y84
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i see your in flint...up 23 or 75?
are you before or after 23/75 junction?

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ACTUALLY, What is on your center caps, the Firebird, or the WS6?

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all my center caps have been vandelized

but they did say WS6
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Originally posted by f-crazy
all my center caps have been vandelized

but they did say WS6
Mine are f-bird graphic and funny enough, they wouldn't stay on so I took some sticky goop from the trunk area and applied to the cap. I went strolling down the highway (side) to retrieve one. Fun, eh?
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very nice work.
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Any chance you'll do one with t-tops?
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...yes, t-tops will be nice....

...but I think, a colored air dam looks better...

btw...my 91 TA (not GTA) was equipped with a colored air dam, when I got the car in 1992...

...and the center caps say WS6, silver letters on black caps.......and the 16 x 8 "Diamond Spoke" GTA-alu-rims are colored in "charcoal metallic", not black...

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OK, T-top will take some messing around, and I will change the air-dam back to Color...

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that a drawing? it looks computer generated.
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I drew it on the computer if thats what your asking...

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Looks good. How about the fender vents behind front wheels. I know GTAs and Formulas didn't have them but didn't '91/'92 T/As?
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No, 91/92 cars didn't come with fender vents.

That's another great drawing by the way. I love how you've paid attention to every detail. Even the black mirror gaskets are there.

/edit: Just noticed one missing detail though. Where are the rear side markers? And yes, a T-Top version would be nice. I'll print out that picture and try to get a photo of my car ('92 Firebird with T-Tops) from the same angle tomorrow.

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THey should have though. You're right. tempory loss of brain function due to fatigue.. tried to delete the post with no avail..It's been a while since I've had the honor of seeing a '91/92 T/A.

great drawing though

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Ok, here it is. Not exactly the same angle, but almost. Click on the pic for the hires version.

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Thats pretty suave, what computer program do you use to do something like that?
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The 91-92 T/A shirts are now availble... Hard top only right now.

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You've got some real skill!

Would you mind doing a Hardtop 1991 GTA in black? Just a computer graphic.

Thanks!
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Hey, 91 Trans Am/GTA guys,

Do you have 2 air dams or one? I know theres one on the front bumper, but do you have a second one closer the radiator?

Also, on the front air dam, which cars had the 1 piece, and which cars had the 3 piece?

Thanks!
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lol

Post from the dead.

Okfoz, I always love that work u did on the car shirts....

We ever going to see some?

later
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you mean like this?

Jeremy,
I think there is little or no chance of it at this point...
1) I really gave up, I submitted my stuff to GM (Equity Management) shortly thereafter the new owners of TGO took over and made it for-profit. GM won't let a For profit group sell designs & logos unless they pay out the nose.
2) I have more pressing issues now that I am married have 2 kids, and a PMSing wife.

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VERY sweet! Man I would KILL for that in Dark Jade Grey Metallic.

Awesome work man!
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John, that looks really nice. A little bit of reflection and/or gradation in the nose to enhance definition might be in order for the black cars; that's a lot of black there in the front to get lost in. Overall, it is excellent.

Even with my commercial art degree, I'd be hard pressed to better that by hand. Wish you could profit from them, but GM is a stickler when it comes to using anything of theirs for profit without proper licensure.
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Dang thats looks awesome any chance you could do a blue iroc
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Dang thats looks awesome any chance you could do a blue iroc
Yeah- or a white RS?
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John, that looks really nice. A little bit of reflection and/or gradation in the nose to enhance definition might be in order for the black cars; that's a lot of black there in the front to get lost in. Overall, it is excellent.

Even with my commercial art degree, I'd be hard pressed to better that by hand. Wish you could profit from them, but GM is a stickler when it comes to using anything of theirs for profit without proper licensure.
Frankie,
thank you for the complement...
Unfortunately I do not have a degree in Art,

I thought I would share a later version of the car with you...
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Now that's a nice one, too, John. Very good job. I'm partial to that red as well.... but I like th eblack too. When you have each color, it's hard to pick a favorite sometimes.

An art degree is not required to be a good artist, my friend.... only the talent. I missed out on the computer art revolution and was trained in the hands-on-paper style of illustration. I got out of school in '88, and the computer art revolution was just then starting to gather momentum. I was probably three to five years too late to really cash in.

But the ol' eyes have started to fail me in the years since I graduated from college; I don't ever pick up a pen or pencil anymore hardly. I sat down last week to do a 3rdGen Firebird logo for my website, and it took me three tries to get it right. In the old days, that would have been a ten-minute freehand job.

Kinda depressing....
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We need to get your designs on a shirt.

If we could get them made by someone who already has a license, they could always do custom order shirts for us with thirdgen on them lol

I want to see those things get made :-(
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We need to get your designs on a shirt.

If we could get them made by someone who already has a license, they could always do custom order shirts for us with thirdgen on them lol

I want to see those things get made :-(
I would love to have a shirt with one of these
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I would love to have a shirt with one of these

So would lots of us.

It wont happen since this is a "for profit" website now. Unless someone coughs up some fat licensing fees.

I was involved in it a very small amount at the time.

Okfoz and Dirk were the ones trying to move the mountains to make it happen.

He still has the best damned t-shirt designs for thirdgens I have ever seen.

I can dream lol
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Now that's a nice one, too, John. Very good job. I'm partial to that red as well.... but I like th eblack too. When you have each color, it's hard to pick a favorite sometimes.

An art degree is not required to be a good artist, my friend.... only the talent. I missed out on the computer art revolution and was trained in the hands-on-paper style of illustration. I got out of school in '88, and the computer art revolution was just then starting to gather momentum. I was probably three to five years too late to really cash in.

But the ol' eyes have started to fail me in the years since I graduated from college; I don't ever pick up a pen or pencil anymore hardly. I sat down last week to do a 3rdGen Firebird logo for my website, and it took me three tries to get it right. In the old days, that would have been a ten-minute freehand job.

Kinda depressing....
I hear you, I was never really fast at drawing, but what I learned in taking a single undergrad art class was priceless. Working with Line, and texture, and drawing without using lines and using shading only opened my eyes to the world of art and seeing shape & figure... I have a much deeper respect for art in general.

BTW, the drawing above I have more than 12 hours into it. People want me to give it to them for free... On the one hand I can say that ok, yeah sure I have it done and my work is done, but on the other hand I really am proud of my work and it did not come cheep to me either. I am considering approching a T-shirt guy and see if he wants to make a 3rd gen shirt, but I am not ready yet.

I remember my art teacher saying "Art is painful" I now realize what he is talking about,
1) you have the agony of working with the media
2) you have to take any critical opinions good or bad.
3) you have to look at it for what it is.

John

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I took the liberty of photo"chopping" your artwork into a vert ... hope you're not offended. It looks kinda photoshopped, but I thought some people might want to see it. There are no seats showing (which looks kinda weird) and the spoiler is a little off, but my car is a red 92 vert, so I thought I would give it a shot.
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I Live North of 69, and EAST of 23/75... If you know where McLaren Hospital is you can walk to my house in 5 min.

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I work off of 475 and stewart....small world.. ( live in birch run though..)

Hehe, I actually work off of Robert T. Longway and 475, the back entrance to Mott.

I live in Clio now... talk about small worlds, we could commute

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i still have one of the early shirts. it's a red formula. at the time i only had a base model and you had no base model shirts.. anyway, i wear it to all the car shows and gatherings despite it being a bit on the small side.

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I would love to have a shirt with one of these
I have one of the original shirts. I wish I had gotten 2 so that I wouldn't feel bad about wearing/washing it, don't want to wear it out.

BTW, I got the 89 GTA style in red, wonder why???
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T-Shirts

A very good friend of mine owns a company that makes printed t-shirts. If I am not mistaken he already has a GM license and I know I could get him to produce shirts with these designs. I have a 91' GTA, so I would love to get these pictures on a shirt. Of course, I would not want to do anything without the approval of the artist. Last time I had him make shirts with a custom picture he charged me about $13 a piece.

If you guys are interested let me know.

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Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I would be interested if you inquire.

If he does indeed have the GM license, then we might be able to work something out.

let me know by PM if possible.

John
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Originally Posted by okfoz
I would be interested if you inquire.

If he does indeed have the GM license, then we might be able to work something out.

let me know by PM if possible.

John

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