There is a history related question in this thread but i wanted to say a little about my car that i just got.I just got a 1982 trans am with 60k original miles on the original CROSSFIRE engine,"knight rider package".I don't know what else to call it.It has the factory recaro style black/gold paint job,camel tan cloth interior with the rare pmd seats,non leaking t-tops,original 15" turbo cast wheels no bowling ball caps hmmmmm wonder why But i'm prepared and already have a set of stainless steel ones.

One of the questions is my car has the crossfire stickers on the doors handle.I haven't seen many of these cars in person let alone with the door sticker even ones with the crossfire engine.Are door stickers rare?


Next I'm a little confused i know there was a shortage of rear disc brakes for the 82 firebird model year ws-6 package,since most of them went to the recaro package,but this car having the crossfire i think it had to come with the rear disc by default.So is it rare to have rear disc on a crossfire car or not?.A guy i know in L.a bought a 82 trans am in Texas same as mine but red /black ext and it has the crossfire engine but has rear drums instead .Any help or info would be great.

p.s I don't have any pics but once the car is delivered i'll take some pics.

 

My first car was a 83 Trans Am black/black int. with the pmd seats every option available, including the LU5 crossfirte engine and it had WS6 and rear drums.
man i loved that car too bad a jerk smashed it and took it away from me, but some of that parts live on in my formula and my buddies 84 T/A.

And my door handles had fuel injection stickers on em not crossfire.

 

3rdgenparts:

Door handle decals available were:

4-WHEEL DISC
FUEL INJECTION
RECARO TA

It is not rare for a '82 Crossfire Trans Am to have WS6. It is rare for the '82 Crossfire Trans Am to have WS7. For a short period in early June '82, some of the LU5 Trans Ams did receive WS7 instead of WS6.
Though the '82 LU5 Trans Am required WS6, the Recaro Package included WS6, more '82 LG4 Trans Am's and S/E's received WS6 than the 13K+/- LU5's.

P.S. The N20 RPO code you have in your sig is for a 50 Gallon Fuel Tank, not for the Bowling Ball Hubcap.

Dave84Bird:

Your '83 would have had WS7 (WS6 minus the J65 4-Wheel Disc). On the '83 LU5 Trans Am, WS6 was no longer required and was optional.

 

Great information! I did not know that a 4-WHEEL DISC decal was available in '82. Would you happen to have a picture of one? Also do you know when production stopped on the 1982 model year? My '82 was built the 4th week of September and came with LU5/WS7. Thanks!

BTW Great find 3rdGenParts! I hope you keep it 100% original.

 

hi 82 Recarota

I'll double check on the crossfire door handle labels."Crossfire"is what i was told by the owner it had on the handles but he might have been confused.Also I'am 99.9% sure N20 is the 82 rpo code for bowling ball caps since i got the rpo code from my 82 s/e's build sheet i found under my driver side pmd seat last week.It said it had ws-7,n89 turbocast,n20 Alum hub caps.

 

thanks 82firebirdta

I think most of us know why i should probaly keep it 100% orginal.To be honest I think it looks better that way.

 

I had a 82 Z28 crossfire injection and the handles said crossfire and it had 4 wheel disc and fiberglass hood with working flaps

 

thanks for the confirmation of the door handle labels.It appears they are very rare.

 

Do you have any pictures of the door handels or car yet? Thanks.

 

3rdgenparts:

Check for P20 for the Aluminum hubcaps.

As far as the Crossfire handle decal, they are listed for the Camaro LU5.
"Fuel Injection" is listed for the Trans Am LU5. Could be a possible swap?


Every once and a while I may decide to share some little known documented information that I have about these Trans Am's. I am going to take this opportunity to share and try to clarify some misleading information.

Your question was basically, Is WS6 rare on the '82 LU5.

The information that I had posted was what you or anyone would find on this board or other places on the Internet. That information is at best, no more than an overall generalization based on speculation that is missing many key facts. So it is no wonder that people get confused and/or argumentative.

The answer is YES and NO. It depends on from which production plant and when.
If you are talking about the Norwood built Trans Am's, the answer is NO.
If you are talking about Van Nuys built, the answer is YES. (See below)

You will find people saying that, the LU5 came out half way through the production year.

This is true, if you are talking about the Van Nuys built LU5.
The Van Nuys LU5 had to have the NB2 California Emission and wasn't available for most of the first half of the production year, the Norwood LU5 did not require NB2 and was available.

For a short period in June because of a 4-Wheel Disc shortage, some LU5 Trans Am's received WS7 instead of WS6.

Fact of the matter is, because of the shortage, ALL "build orders" with WS6 that were not preferenced or currently at the assembly plants awaiting their "scheduled build date" before May 27th, 1982, received WS7 instead of WS6, regardless of engine, model, or production plant.

The so-called "short period in June" comes from a partial overlap of the scheduled build dates of the preferenced or pre-May 27th dated WS6 build orders, and the scheduled build dates of new and non-preferenced build orders received after May 27th.



82FirebirdTA:

To answer your 4-WHEEL DISC decal question; it was a leftover from the 2nd Generation. I don't have any pics, but I could get a pic from my '79 if you want.

I would say '82 production ended late Sept. (going by the 10D build date of my '83 SE that has a low 2000 production number and adding in retooling time). It looks like yours is one of the last. What is your production number and assembly plant?

 

Thanks for the detailed info 82RECAROTA


Yes my car is a van nuys car which from what you say a little more rare than a norwood car with the same options i wonder ow many were made with my options.i do know not many are left because the cars were mainly used for knight rider.

I'm a little optimistic on giving out my vin but here it is
1G2AW8773CL528191 if you have any info on the car please let me know.
I bought the car from a guy in Iowa who got it from his mom who was the second owner the first one lived 10 Miles away from them .But i don't know who that is.

You were right i was wrong on the rpo code for the bowling ball caps i checked my 82 s/e's build she and it said p20 for the silver bowling ***** .Which i have for sale incase anyone needs any they are in mint condition and are the 15" versions.


I doubt that the crossfire decals were put on by any of the previous owners cause when i was taking to the guy who i bought it from on the phone he had just noticed the stickers on the handles.But i could be wrong sine i don't know the original owner of the car.


Also if you have this info i would appreciate it if you can share it.I need to know how many rpo code N89 turbo cast wheels were made for 82-83 in the 15" size i know all of the 82 s/e's got them if they were ordered with ws-7 or ws-6 but was wondering if you knew how many in total so can i keep it for my personal records any help would be great thanks<<

 

Here is the only pic i have so far of the car its crappy but its better than nothing.I guarantee i will have lots of pics of the car when i get it and when i put some brand new nos old dealership black bowling ball caps i found.I feel like teasing all the knight rider people who have been bothering me and offering money for my car

 

82RECAROTA you have a PM. Thanks.

 

Ditto, x2.

 

3rdgenparts,
Does that car have the Aluminum Hood???

I was told in another post that the 82 LU5 T/A's got the Aluminum Hood, can you Verify...

Easy way to tell is if you open the hood and on the passenger side of the hood latch there will be a rather large "A" its about 3" tall.

thanks

John

 

Well I don't actually have the car yet in hand.I'm waiting for some cash,So i can transport it from Iowa.I should have the car by next week I'll check for you when i get it.

Also refering back to the aluminum hood my 1982 firebird s/e has a very light flat hood I can lift it with one hand and it has week hood struts.Since some 82 trans am's got flat hoods mine might be a flat aluminum hood? If gm ever made any.I'll double check the "A" stamp on both hoods.And on the hood on my knight rider kitt conversion.It's a 85 trans am but the previous owner put a 82-84 trans am cowl hood with the wire screen in the cowl opening.


p.s Yes I think only Lu5 crossfire trans am's can only get the aluminum cowl hood,It says so on my 1982 pontiac firebird brochure.

 

They are listed as being included with the "early" '82 LU5 Crossfire Trans Ams.

My 3 '82 LU5 Recaro TAs have the 10014648 steel hood.

 

82 Recaro,
Is there any information reguarding the production and numbers of the Aluminum Hood??? And What was the RPO?

John

 

John:

I will see what I can find out as far as production numbers.

The January '82 22F P&I lists the Aluminum Turbo Hood as PT# 10017982, but not the March '82 edition no longer lists it. The 10017982 number is more than likely a replacement number for the original. I take it the 10014649 is the number from an actual original Aluminum Hood, as it is different, as is the number on my original steel turbo hoods, from what the P&I books list.

The RPO for the Aluminum Turbo Hood is T47.
The RPO for the Steel Turbo Hood is T48.


3rdgenparts:

There is a standard Aluminum Hood PT# 10017983 and Steel Hood PT# 10014647 listed for '82, RPO T45 and T46 respectively. The 10017983 may be a replacement number, and not the original.

 

that is correct, I got 10014649 striaght from a hood I used to own, and apparently there is another fellow here that has an Aluminum Hood with the same Part #.

Talking about hoods, did you know that Van Nuys and Norwood used different hoods for the Formula?

John

 

John:

I happened to check the PT# on my '82 Recaro Steel Hoods. The PT# clearly reads 10014649 on all 3.

Originally, my son had checked the number on one hood and did the magnet test on all 3. Magnet test was positive on all 3 for the Steel Hood. He thought the PT# read 10014648 (didn't have his contacts in).

Apparently, the PT#s are the same for both Aluminum and Steel Hoods, with the "A" to differentiate the two. But that brings up the question, since Adamsy87 has the 10014649 part number but not the "A", yet the magnet test says Aluminum.

Maybe another topic, "List your '82 Turbo Hood PT# and Norwood or Van Nuys", might shed some more light.

 

Welcome to the club I have a 83 with the LU5 meddoeskin interior ect.... get you a phs packet it has alot of great info on pontiac. The car should have "fuel Injection" on the handles not crossfire.

 

I wanted the information for my records, but I could not read the part number well, so I had to chip the paint from around the part number to read it.

I will start a new thread...

John

 

I just realized something, that pic of the aluminum part number I just posted does not have the date stamp on it like my steel hoods

John

 

Is there a date stamp on the drivers side edge near the front of the hood. My Steel Hoods have one there and one with the PT#.

 

I sold the hood so I do not know...

John

 

Thanks.The phs packet was on the list of things I need for this car.Crossfire on the door handles is what i was told by the owner,I'll check for myself when I get the car.Also thanks for everyones help.Although it shifted to focusing on the aluminum hood which i'll also check.You learn something everyday.

 

My 82 CF has rear drums. Mine also had all of the origional Crossfire badges but the prev owner (a friend) yanked them, and also sold the origional hood

the old Crossfire engine is sitting in a 77 Monza right now..... but has yet to run......


*edit* LOL, sorry for digging up the dead

 

wow old thread of mine revived cool.Welcome to the boards my 82 t/a also came from Iowa in a town called Williamsburg.I think rear drums is common but not on crossfire's which mostly got ws-6 you have ws-7.Since your car is pretty modded and no longer stock any chance you still have the original wheels just thought i'd give it a chance.later

 

as a matter of fact i do. right now theyre on my buddies 79 Regal... why, you interrested ? hehe



Dave

PS. thanks for the welcome....

 

yes i am email me dmcman108@yahoo.com thanks

 

WHat rims are you talking about??? I have a set of the 15" Aluminum Fin ones... NO Center caps...

John

 

sweet more rims for me email a pic i got cash thanx

 

this is an old pic from when i first got her: