Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
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Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
During a recent visit to a local bone yard I found an 82-83 V6 Firebird. It had the small square reverse lights and a 3-speed automatic. While looking over the car for parts I needed; I found that the cluster in the car didn't appear to be correct.
The car HAD a V6 engine in it and it had a cluster with a 30/60 oil pressure gauge. I know that on every other Camaro or Firebid I've seen the v6 cluster has a 40/80 and the V8 got the 30/60 oil pressure gauge. Here are my questions:
1) Are all 82-84 clusters the same ?? 82-83-84 Camaros each had different gauge designs.
2) Did the V-6 ever get a 30/60 oil pressure gauge ? Specificly speaking about the 82-84 clusters.
3) Do the gauges inside the 82-84 Firebird cluster have the application written on them. I recall that the 86 -> up tachs said V6 or V8 right on them.
4) What are the Yellow and Red lines for the 82-84 Firebird V6 AND V8 Tachometers ??
5) Were all 82-84 Firebird Speedo's 85MPH ?? ( X-cept metric, I have a factory 140KPH )
I realize that after 20 + years someone could have replaced the cluster 10 times over this cars lifespan. I'm pretty sure the oil pressure gauge is a V8 spec. I can't remember what the Yellow/Red lines were on the clusters' tachometer or I would have described them above.
I'm not worried about the 85 style or the 86 and up clusters,.........
The car HAD a V6 engine in it and it had a cluster with a 30/60 oil pressure gauge. I know that on every other Camaro or Firebid I've seen the v6 cluster has a 40/80 and the V8 got the 30/60 oil pressure gauge. Here are my questions:
1) Are all 82-84 clusters the same ?? 82-83-84 Camaros each had different gauge designs.
2) Did the V-6 ever get a 30/60 oil pressure gauge ? Specificly speaking about the 82-84 clusters.
3) Do the gauges inside the 82-84 Firebird cluster have the application written on them. I recall that the 86 -> up tachs said V6 or V8 right on them.
4) What are the Yellow and Red lines for the 82-84 Firebird V6 AND V8 Tachometers ??
5) Were all 82-84 Firebird Speedo's 85MPH ?? ( X-cept metric, I have a factory 140KPH )
I realize that after 20 + years someone could have replaced the cluster 10 times over this cars lifespan. I'm pretty sure the oil pressure gauge is a V8 spec. I can't remember what the Yellow/Red lines were on the clusters' tachometer or I would have described them above.
I'm not worried about the 85 style or the 86 and up clusters,.........
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
Allow me to simplify in the hopes of a response ---->
Did the V-6 ever get a 30/60 oil pressure gauge ?
Did the V-6 ever get a 30/60 oil pressure gauge ?
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
I can't remember the last time I saw an early v6 bird AND payed attention to the cluster.
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
From what I can tell:
1) Apparently they all used the same Sender unit from 82 -84 14039664
2) The 1982 Gage (Oil & Volt) must have been a single unit was 25025713 and there are no other references gages listed...
Unfortuantely I could not find any more info, my book is from 1992 so some things may have been removed as they are obsolete.
John
1) Apparently they all used the same Sender unit from 82 -84 14039664
2) The 1982 Gage (Oil & Volt) must have been a single unit was 25025713 and there are no other references gages listed...
Unfortuantely I could not find any more info, my book is from 1992 so some things may have been removed as they are obsolete.
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
My 82 with V8 LU5 has a 60psi oil pressure gauge. My 83 V8 L69 has an 80psi oil pressure gauge. IIRC the v6 had 60psi oil pressure gauge.
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
My 83 V8 L69 has an 80psi oil pressure gauge.
P.S. I know that the same oil pressure gauge was used for the V6 and V8 digital Berlinettas and that the only difference is in the faceplate.
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
During a recent visit to a local bone yard I found an 82-83 V6 Firebird. It had the small square reverse lights and a 3-speed automatic. While looking over the car for parts I needed; I found that the cluster in the car didn't appear to be correct.
The car HAD a V6 engine in it and it had a cluster with a 30/60 oil pressure gauge. I know that on every other Camaro or Firebid I've seen the v6 cluster has a 40/80 and the V8 got the 30/60 oil pressure gauge. Here are my questions:
1) Are all 82-84 clusters the same ?? 82-83-84 Camaros each had different gauge designs.
2) Did the V-6 ever get a 30/60 oil pressure gauge ? Specificly speaking about the 82-84 clusters.
3) Do the gauges inside the 82-84 Firebird cluster have the application written on them. I recall that the 86 -> up tachs said V6 or V8 right on them.
4) What are the Yellow and Red lines for the 82-84 Firebird V6 AND V8 Tachometers ??
5) Were all 82-84 Firebird Speedo's 85MPH ?? ( X-cept metric, I have a factory 140KPH )
The car HAD a V6 engine in it and it had a cluster with a 30/60 oil pressure gauge. I know that on every other Camaro or Firebid I've seen the v6 cluster has a 40/80 and the V8 got the 30/60 oil pressure gauge. Here are my questions:
1) Are all 82-84 clusters the same ?? 82-83-84 Camaros each had different gauge designs.
2) Did the V-6 ever get a 30/60 oil pressure gauge ? Specificly speaking about the 82-84 clusters.
3) Do the gauges inside the 82-84 Firebird cluster have the application written on them. I recall that the 86 -> up tachs said V6 or V8 right on them.
4) What are the Yellow and Red lines for the 82-84 Firebird V6 AND V8 Tachometers ??
5) Were all 82-84 Firebird Speedo's 85MPH ?? ( X-cept metric, I have a factory 140KPH )
I looked through the pics I have and I could not find an 82 or 83 V6 with a 30/60 oil pressure gauge. I did find some pics of 84 L69 with the 40/80 oil pressure gauge, as well as my 83 L69. The LU5 and LG4’s did have the 30/60 oil pressure gauge.
To answer your questions
1) No, the 82's had white needles, the 83-84's had orange needs. 84 also had a different pattern in the tach for red over rev area.
2) Not that I can tell.
3) Non of the gauges I have taken apart have had any markings on them with application.
4) Red lines are:
82 I4 – 5000 RPM (6000 max reading)
82 V6 – 5000 RPM (6000 max reading)
82 V8 – 5000 RPM (6000 max reading)
83 I4 – 5000 RPM (6000 max reading)
83 V6 – 6000 RPM (8000 max reading)
83 V8 LU5 & LG4 – 5000 RPM (6000 max reading)
83 V8 L69 – 6000 RPM (8000 max reading)
84 I4 – 5000 RPM (6000 max reading)
84 V6 – 6000 RPM (8000 max reading)
84 V8 LG4 – 5000 RPM (6000 max reading)
84 V8 L69 – 6000 RPM (8000 max reading)
5) All 82-84 Speedos were 85mph. it was a federal law at the time.
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
Thanx to all that responded. As usual; sharing your knowledge has once again helped me to learn more and I really appreciate the time you've all taken to reply to this post !
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Re: Firebird Cluster ----> V6 or V8 ???
It might be possible that Originally they did have different gages and for one reason or another a gage was replaced by a "generic" item which was one or the other of the gages...
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