okfoz

Jere is a JY Firebird T-tops, LO3/A4 http://watertown.craigslist.org/cto/1110338380.html

TTOP350

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A friend of mine called about the 350 car and its sold.... did someone on here buy it?????

t_towner

I also called to buy the 350 car....it did sell to someone on the board but he doesn't know that I know... :-)

TTOP350

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well then who was it??

LimaBravoNiner

Another base model JY 92:

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1160481746.html

okfoz

I hope Bruce does not mind me blabbing.. Bruce bought the JY Formula 350 that I posted...

okfoz

I found yet another JY Formula, this one is a Formula LB9/A4 hardtop

http://detroit.en.craigslist.org/ctd/1182930609.html

The car is actually in Port Huron, which is north of Detroit by about 60 or so miles. I went to look at the car here is what I found.

1) Obviously the car has been repainted, it is very evident in the pictures from the Decals being wrong. The color appears to be the original Yellow shade. From the repaint there is a little over spray on the rear hatch interior plastic piece on the passenger side, and some other over spray issues.

2) Although it appears to be really clean in pictures, the RH rear wheel well has a rust hole at the top... If it is not a hole yet it is really close. The bottom of the drivers side door seemed fine, but when you opened the door the front of the door hinge area there is some rust on the door and the hinges. ( I noticed what I did and did not go any further looking underneath etc... )

3) It is a true blue TPI car, I was going to look for SLP equipment and do not remember seeing any, appears to be basically a stock engine.

4) The Odometer did rear just a shy bit over 60,xxx so it is a reasonably lower miles car.

5) He is asking $4500...

6) The interior is honestly pretty decent, no smells jumped out at me, the seats were not torn, the carpet is a little dirty, The ash tray looked pretty good. I did not see any cracks in the dash pad etc... Beyond the little over spray I mentioned it was reasonably nice, about what you would expect from a 17 year old 60K mile car. Also had the original GM floor mats...

Final thoughts: SINCE it was repainted, I have no idea what is under all that paint, it is a little older paint job, it is not fresh, so I think basically what you see may be close to what you are getting. I did not notice any spider-web cracks in the bumpers that jumped out at me... there may be some upon really close inspection, but they looked pretty decent. It is definitely worth fixing up if your interested in the car, but personally I wanted something a little cleaner. Honestly out of all of the JY Formulas out there this one may be rather unique. 3 of the cars I have seen were the LO3/A4, and a few L98/A4 cars, then the LB9/M5 is pretty common. I have never seen another LB9/A4 Formula for 1992 in my recollection... I know they are out there, but this is the first one that sticks out in my head.. Honestly if it was a LB9/M5 Formula I would have been more likely to jump on it...

That is my appraisal, and what I think...

John

kizz

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yeah that sounds like the one Bruce has, as you said. Basically a one-of-one, when you add up all its various features. Hardtop, 1LE, LB9, JY, 92 Formula. According to Bruce, it is also VIN 000001 and body #1 for 1992, so it was the first 1992 Firebird ever. I saw it in person, a week or two ago, albeit from a distance. I grabbed a pic which blg0720 posted here. He had some yellow Ronal (Firehawk-style) wheels on it.

A couple of things strictly from memory, so I could be wrong: I think he said that he bought it at Barrett-Jackson in Florida, and that he is building a 383 for it to make it faster. Again, don't quote me on those, but I'm relatively sure. He also told me the price he bought it for, which I won't post here, and that he has turned down much bigger offers. Although I'd be keeping it 100% stock, what a lucky guy he is!

edit: actually I think she grabbed the pic herself! I don't want to give myself undue credit.

JT

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There was quite a discussion between these two threads:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...2-formula.html
and
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...408-bruce.html

The BJ auction shown it sold for 38,500 plus BJ's extra fees.

The yellow rims look pretty neat on the car.

kizz

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D'oh. I've been away for a while. Thanks for refreshing my memory, JT. Well since the price is well known (although he told me $35,000), he also said that he has turned down offers for $50,000, but might think about $52,000. And on that other thread I was thinking about buying it, strictly for profit. That would've been at least a $15,000 profit. Haha. What a fool I am.

JT

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Not a problem. The BJ auction listing on their own website shows it sold for 38,500. But the $35,000 figure was thrown out by someone as well.

So was the title and registration not an issue? And he isn't keeping the car stock as he's swapping out the stock engine?

kizz

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On the 383 swap, I am not sure, as he and I and blg0720 talked about several cars in a short span of time, so I might be mixing up two cars there. I really hope he does keep it stock! It's so historical. The yellow wheels are a really nice touch IMHO and easily swappable back and forth with OEM's. He did not talk to me at all about the car's title, but I just re-read those threads you posted, and Bruce himself said in the threads that it came with a clear title MSO, so I think he should be able to drive it legally in South Carolina. I should've taken a look to see what plates it had on it, but didn't have the chance.

He also said that he was sort of a freak for yellow, and I told him I was too, showing him a yellow 2005 Ford GT which I had as the wallpaper on my phone. He said "those are bad-a$$" but was not really amused Heck, I have never bought a Ford, but I do have a deep obsession with Ford GT's...especially in yellow...at the risk of straying off-topic.

Bedtime. GT

scottmoyer

BJ sold the car for $35k. They have a 10% buyers fee, so that equates to $38,500 for the buyer. The seller also had to pay a 10% fee, so BJ collected $7k on the sale of a $35k vehicle.

JT

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Scott, you are correct. Didn't notice that BJ was including the fee in the total.

okfoz

Actually I would not think that is not the JY 1LE that you have a picture there. It is of a JY 1992 Formula 350 that he purchased a few months ago....

He also has the 1LE Formula, that is untouched...

John

scooter

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I hate bumping an old thread, but does anyone know if the total number of JY cars is known? I have a base model and I was just wondering about how many base models were JY

okfoz

15 - GTA's (Y83)
24 - Trans AM Convertibles (WS4)
26 - Base Firebird (W/O W68)
30 - Base Firebird Convertibles
31 - FORMULA (W66)
44 - Trans Am's (WS4)
366 - Firebirds (w/W68)
536 - Total

Compnine only shows 24,177 Firebirds in 1992, and other sources report that there was 25,180 Firebirds in 1992. So there may be anywhere between 4% and 8% more out there. But this is a start.

John

scooter

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Cool, thanks. Close is better than nothing, maybe the discrepancy is like the Notchback number?

Drew

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Does anyone else see the JY acronym and read it as Junk Yard?

TTOP350

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Hey now...

scottmoyer

Everytime someone posts and uses JY, I always think junk yard before thinking Jamaica Yellow. So, Yes!

scooter

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Yes, but typing Jamaica is kind of annoying, especially more than one time,

okfoz

Nope, I was able to overcome JY meaning Junk Yard.

Steve86TA

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Have any numbers been broken down any further John? Such as how many were tpi, 5spd hardtop?

okfoz

I never did at the time. I no longer have access to the information on compnine, I refuse to pay that much I guess

Drew

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It depends on the day, but some days I see JY and it takes a second or two to figure out it's referring to them yeller Firebirds. Nothing against yellow cars, it's just the first thing that comes to mind when I see JY.

Like I read...

and I scratch my head and wonder why anyone is worried about a base Firebird in a Junk Yard.

Just a bit disorienting.

3rdgenparts

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Talk about funny timing this thread comes back from DEAD !!


Here's 1 of 30?? JY Base verts. But Compnine sys 1 of 54 ???

Legit 52Q RPO listed !!

Located in San Antonio

Looks like it got rear ended ??







1G2FS33T4NL202474

Vehicle:
FIREBIRD CONVERTIBLE
Year:
1992
Build Date:
1991-08-27


Found 1,843 vehicles matching that year and model in our database.
RPO Description Matches
UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER)(USED WITH BERETTA GT PKG Z21) GA(UB3) 1,843
UM6 RADIO,AM/FM STEREO,CASSETTE,ETR,INCLUDES CLOCK STEREO CASSETTE(UM6) 666
UQ1 RADIO,PROVISIONS FOR STEREO STEREO RDO PR0VISIONS(UQ1) 1,843
U62 SPEAKER SYSTEM,4,DUAL COAX FRONT,DUAL COAX PACKAGE SHELF 4 SPKR SYS(U62) 1,843
VAN PLANT CODE VAN NUYS, CA, CPC VAN NUYS,CA PLANT CODE(VAN) 1,843
VK3 LICENSE PLATE,FRONT MOUNTING PACKAGE FRT LIC PLT MTG PKG(VK3) 1,282
VX3 Unknown 79
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73) 1,782
W68 PACKAGE,FIREBIRD SPORT APPEARANCE APPEARANCE PKG(W68) 1,180
1SB PACKAGE-OPTION 02 (1SB) 197
1SZ PACKAGE OPTION- (1SZ) 1,797
18P WHEEL COLOR,CHARCOAL METALLIC (18P) 380
41T VINYL TOP COLOR,BLACK (41T) 994
52Q MOLDING COLOR - JAMACIA YELLOW (52Q) 54
52U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,COPPER BEIGE (52U) 54
6XT COMPONENT FRT LH COMPUTER SEL SUP (6XT) SUSP(6XT) 382
7XT COMPONENT FRT RH COMPUTER SEL SUP (7XT) SUSP(7XT) 382
8UY SPRING-COMPTR SELECT RR LH SUSP(8UY) 1,180
82C TRIM COMBINATION,CLOTH,MEDIUM DARK GRAY (82C) 446
82I INTERIOR TRIM,MEDIUM DARK GRAY (82I) 530
829 SEAT BELT COLOR - MED DK GRAY (829) 530
9UY SPRING-COMPTR SELECT RR RH SUSP(9UY) 1,180
AAA Unknown 1,743
AJ3 RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT INFLATABLE DRIVER SI INFL RST SYS(AJ3) 1,843
AR9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,MANUAL RECLINING(EUROPEAN STYLE) MAN RECL FRT BKT ST,DELUXE(AR9) 1,317
AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3) 1,836
A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE ELEC SI WDO(A31) 1,836
BC8 ORNAMENTATION,INTERIOR,FRONT DOOR MAP POCKET RH AND LH DR MAP PKT(BC8) 1,836
B84 ORNAMENTATION,EXTERIOR,BODY SIDE MOLDING(USED WITH TROFEO SPORT COUPE WL3) BODY SI MLDG(B84) 1,841
C60 AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60) 1,836
D3V GEAR-SPEEDOMETER DRIVEN (25513046) (D3V) 382
D35 MIRROR,O/S LH REM RH DIRECT CTL,PAINTED PAINTED O/S MIR(D35) 192
D8N SENSOR VEH SPD (10456088) (D8N) 1,681
E5Z ADAPTER - SPEEDO - DELETE 1,843
E9Z KEY - SPEEDO - DELETE 1,843
FE1 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,SOFT RIDE(USED WITH RS PACKAGE Y86) SOFT RIDE SUSP(FE1) 1,180
FLT SALES PROCESSING - OPTION 246
GU5 AXLE,REAR,3.23 RATIO 3.23R(GU5) 382
IPC TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IPC) 1,317
J41 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT DISC,REAR DRUM(CAST IRON) CAST IRON FRT DISC/RR DRUM BRK SYS(J41) 1,843
K60 GENERATOR,100 AMPERE 100 AMP(K60) 415
LH0 ENGINE,3.1L(3.1T),V6(EXPORT) 3.1T(LH0)(EXPORT) 399
MD8 TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC 4-SPEED(THM700R4/4L60) 4-SPD A/TRANS(MD8) 1,681
MX0 TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC,OVERDRIVE(MERCHANDISING OPTION) A/TRANS PROVISIONS(MX0) 1,681
NA5 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FEDERAL EMIS(NA5) 1,693
N24 WHEEL,15X7(CAST ALUMINUM) AL WHL(N24) 670
N36 STEERING WHEEL,SPORT-4 SPOKES SPORT STRG WHL(N36) 1,180
QPH TIRE ALL- P215/65R15/N BL R/PE ST TL AL2 (9591591) TIRE(QPH) 1,180
R6U CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 20 282
T96 LAMP,FRONT FOG(USED WITH BERETTA GTZ Z04) FRT FOG LP(T96) 1,843

TTOP350

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I could def use some parts from that car

okfoz

1 of 54
30 Base Firebirds
24 Trans Am
54 total

3rdgenparts

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I def would grab it Tony, Aside from it being a factory JY car, It's also a vert and we ALL know vert parts are VHTF and $$$ on the market


Dave

3rdgenparts

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Ahh 54 total with base and T/A's !!! Thanks for the clear up John

Dave

86blackiroc

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Did you ever contact this guy back then? Or is there possibly still a wrecked JY GTA sitting in some guys garage not far from me?

Tyler Gafford

Please help me sell my Jamaica yellow formula ws6 with the wheels

TTOP350

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Pictures and listing it in the classifieds will help a bunch.

DynoDave43

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Yeah dude...Yellow Formula? Shouldn't be a problem finding a home for that. 2 of my favorite things right there.